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Phil Scovell <[log in to unmask]>
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Echurch-USA The Electronic Church <[log in to unmask]>
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Kery,

I don't know.  That happens to me once and awhile.  Just get the message and
send it again.  Sometimes the mail server gets mixed up.

Phil.

----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 10:42 PM
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> hello all. what is this all about please?
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> > Your message  is being returned to  you unprocessed because it  appears
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> have
> > already  been distributed  to the  ECHURCH-USA list.  That is,  a
message
> with
> > identical text  (but possibly with different  mail headers) has been
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> > the list recently, either by you or by  someone else. If you have a good
> reason
> > to resend this message to the list (for instance because you have been
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> > of a hardware failure with loss of  data), please alter the text of the
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> > in some way and  resend it to the list. Note that  altering the
"Subject:"
> line
> > or adding blank  lines at the top  or bottom of the message  is not
> sufficient;
> > you should  instead add a  sentence or  two at the  top explaining why
> you are
> > resending the  message, so that the  other subscribers understand why
> they are
> > getting two copies of the same message.
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> > From: "kerri" <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: "Echurch-USA The Electronic Church"
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> > Subject: Re:      Re: What is you all's opinion?
> > Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 11:56:13 -0800
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> > chris, why am I funny? I don't know you very well, you could have a kid
> for
> > all I know. the others on here certainly know you better than I do.
Who's
> > kid is she then?
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Chris" <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Monday, January 12, 2004 10:16 PM
> > Subject: Re: What is you all's opinion?
> >
> >
> > > What??????????????
> > >
> > >
> > > N'n'n'n'n'n'n'no!  LOL!
> > >
> > > At least, i certainly hope not!  Heheheheheh.
> > >
> > > Carry, you're too funny.  LOL!
> > >
> > >
> > > Chris.
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "kerri" <[log in to unmask]>
> > > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 12:16 AM
> > > Subject: Re: What is you all's opinion?
> > >
> > >
> > > > Cris, is this your kid?
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Chris" <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > Sent: Monday, January 12, 2004 4:34 PM
> > > > Subject: What is you all's opinion?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > i'm warning yall.  This is quite darn lengthy, but I promise ya:
> It's
> > > > worth
> > > > > the entire read from beginning to end as I do have some pretty
deep
> > > > > questions.  Get ready, cause again, I say:  this? is?  deep!
> > > > >
> > > > > how many of you all believe in gardian angels?  Besides you Phil,
i
> > > > already
> > > > > know that you do.
> > > > >
> > > > > i've never had a spiritual encounter with one, however, I do know
> now
> > > more
> > > > > than ever in my life, that i do have a gardian angel.  I just know
> it,
> > > and
> > > > > know that she is constantly at work.  Granted, she might only be 5
> > years
> > > > > old, I know well enough that even 5 isn't too young to be one...
If
> > you
> > > > > don't believe me, then explain this to me:
> > > > >
> > > > > Why every time that I see her, which is almost hardly never, is it
> > > mearly
> > > > > impossible for either of us to keep from both crying histerically
at
> > the
> > > > > exact same time?  Why is it that even though she's 5, she still
has
> > the
> > > > > maturity to call me every single day, and not even miss one.
let's
> > put
> > > it
> > > > > this way, it's extre'ee'ee'eemly dangerous when a child of this
age
> > has
> > > > > neumonia yet, even then, when she once did at age 4, about a year
> ago,
> > > > even
> > > > > then! she made it a point each day, even if it meant her
constantly
> > > > coughing
> > > > > etc. she made it a point even then to call me...  She's even at
her
> > age
> > > > now,
> > > > > told me that she would die for me...  She said this firstly for
the
> > > first
> > > > > time, at age 3.  Now, if you can sit here and tell me, that a 3
year
> > old
> > > > is
> > > > > going to have the branes to know what it means to give and lay
down
> > > their
> > > > > life for someone, then I wanna know what child you are talking
about
> > and
> > > > > would ya mind me adopting it?  LOL!  only kidding.  Back on a more
> > > serious
> > > > > note though:  This is a really deep topic, and i don't have all
the
> > > > answers;
> > > > > I don't think any of us do:  I think angels, may or may not, be
> > > physically
> > > > > formed.  It really depends on your perspective as to how they will
> end
> > > up
> > > > > being perceived by you as an individual.  And if anyone's raising
> the
> > > > > question now, well I have a very dear relative, or friend, who I
> think
> > > > might
> > > > > be a gardian angel, but how do I know...  This is gonna be hard
for
> me
> > > to
> > > > > explain if you haven't already experienced the feeling, andc Phil,
> > maybe
> > > > you
> > > > > can help me reword this a little more simply.  That is my point.
> You,
> > > as
> > > > > yourself, won't know!  you won't ever know!  it's your spirit, and
> > your
> > > > soul
> > > > > that will.  Then through those indications, you can then as a
person
> > > > > physically, begin to take on the ability of knowing.
> > > > >
> > > > > let me give an example, and I don't think this is gonna really
> > clarify,
> > > > but
> > > > > it might...
> > > > >
> > > > > i thought all along that my cousin jessica was my gardian angel.
> > Well,
> > > I
> > > > > thought this up until literally last night...  Yes, I still love
> her,
> > O
> > > my
> > > > > God!  I'd die and willingly rot, and burn...  OK, that's getting
> > > > > inappropriate, so I'll stop that comment, but you get the poihnt.
> > Yes,
> > > I
> > > > > still would, however, there's a very big difference in love,
verses
> > > angel
> > > > > gardianship...  I can't explain it...  it could take under my
> belief,
> > > > years
> > > > > before you'd ever know, i just find it funny, how the first time I
> > ever
> > > > met
> > > > > this person who now I know it really is, at 9 months old, right
then
> > and
> > > > > there, the first time I ever fed her her bottle, and held her,
even,
> > for
> > > > > that matter:  I knew, right away, this relationship was faaaaar!
> more
> > > than
> > > > > just friendship, or love...  i think the thing was though:  I
> > purposely
> > > > > tried to dismiss it, as it sort a scared me...  No? not cause of
> > that...
> > > > No
> > > > > way!  it just did, more in general, i guess cause i new we lived
> over
> > > 1000
> > > > > miles away, and I didn't want to cling to her too much, as I knew
if
> I
> > > > did,
> > > > > it would wreck me...  Well, sure enough, o, it wrecked me all
right!
> > > > Nearly
> > > > > physically killed me! to be more precise.  So, my question really
> > well,
> > > > > yeah, one, is, how many of you all believe that this day in time,
> God
> > > > really
> > > > > does send angels through the physical formities of a child, or an
> > adult,
> > > > and
> > > > > I'm not refering to romance, o she's my angel, I mean more deeply,
> > > > > spiritually.  OK, I'm gonna say something, and if you all choose
to
> > > object
> > > > > to it, then, ok.  but I do wanna get one thing very clear:
> > > > >
> > > > > just as you all have the God given right to express your beliefs,
I
> > feel
> > > I
> > > > > openly should be able to as well, so if you all disagree, then
fine,
> > but
> > > > > let's agree to disagree, and not start up any anamosity.
> > > > >
> > > > > I myself, believe that God is the creator of all people and all
> > things.
> > > > he
> > > > > created people in his own image...  however! there are certain
> people
> > > who
> > > > > he's specificly created at some time or another who do have God
> > speaking
> > > > > through them...  um...  Gosh this is difficult to explain...  i'm
> > > trying,
> > > > > really I am...  but it's almost on a spiritual level beyond
physical
> > > > > comprehention.  Think of it like this:
> > > > >
> > > > > When a human is born, God has a plan for them quite obviously.
> > Whether
> > > > they
> > > > > choose to follow that plan, is a different thing altogether...
but
> > > > > anyway....  I feel like that God has created angels in the form of
> > > people.
> > > > > No no no no, don't get the wrong idea here.  i'm not saying that
> they
> > > are
> > > > > part of, or have a part of the trenity, I'm saying that even
though
> > they
> > > > are
> > > > > an angel, they don't have a haylo or wings.  yes, I think that
there
> > are
> > > > > those types, but they are only seen more rarely...  i think though
> > that
> > > > God,
> > > > > has created certain people to be "gardian angels."  I feel like
they
> > may
> > > > > have gosh... what's the word....  not.... rejuvinated... that's no
> > where
> > > > > close to what I'm looking for, nor is carma anywhere close...  I'm
> not
> > > > that
> > > > > spiritually sick... LOL!  Um...  It's more like...  They... were
in
> > > > heaven,
> > > > > I guess is what I'm trying to say, when they really were born
> first...
> > > > > Then, through means of another birth, after God has maybe told
them
> > his
> > > > plan
> > > > > for them, he sends them to earth, as a baby through means of
another
> > > > humanly
> > > > > birth.  This goes back to an interesting question that was
presented
> > to
> > > my
> > > > > pastor by myself.  Again, this is deep, so bare with me...
> > > > >
> > > > > When we are created:  Were we created and right now, actually, we
> > > already
> > > > > are in heaven, but don't know it...  Don't stop reading, I have my
> > > reason
> > > > of
> > > > > thinking, and you might find it facenating if you read on...  I
know
> > > that
> > > > > last comment may offend people, but if you'd let me explain, I
don't
> > > think
> > > > > it will in the long run...
> > > > >
> > > > > See, often times, I've heard that when you die, it's like a new
> > > awakening.
> > > > > Well, I really stopped and thought about that for a bit...  What
> if...
> >
> > > we
> > > > > are already dead, we're already in heaven, yet, are totally asleep
> > there
> > > > and
> > > > > not aware of it...  What is here now on earth that we're
> experiencing
> > is
> > > > > only a dream.  We think it's reality though as we've never seen
> > reality
> > > > > which is, hince?  Right!  Heaven!  or in some people's case?
Hell!
> > > > >
> > > > > So, really we're already there, we just don't know it...  kind of
a
> > > > freakie
> > > > > concept.  Anyway, I could go on with these philisofical questions
> for
> > > days
> > > > > upon years, but I don't wanna bore yall, so just let me know about
> > this
> > > > > first, and we'll take it from there.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Take care.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Chris.
> > > > >
> > > >
> >
> >

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