Brad,
         I think that the Shakey Lakes area might be safe too because 
there are Indian mounds there.  My Dad showed them to me once.  Some 
things are just too strange.

         By the way, I'll just throw this in for the fun of it.  Have 
you heard the contest about finding the best bathroom in the 
U.S.?  Boy, we sure have our priorities on correctly don't we?  I 
think that we give God a big laugh.
Kathy


At 08:57 AM 6/30/2007, you wrote:
>Kathy,
>
>I agree on the Earth worshipping bit. The perspective is indeed 
>backwards.  People are too interested in the "right" to do things, 
>rather than doing things right. I believe our president already has 
>his legacy which was very pivotal in the future of our country which 
>I'm not so sure  will be very popular with him. The response out of 
>911 was good, although much of that had to do with the people waking 
>up to a national tragedy and pulling together, and because it is so 
>rare these days, it made a big impact, but it is the response 
>afterwards that built the legacy. Very deep and long lasting 
>decisions which we have yet to feel the affects of to full degree. 
>Whether or not the parks actually get sold or not, probably not, it 
>does give insight to their blatant disrespect for the citizens to 
>even bother with legislation for it. Speaking of oil, they know it 
>exists under the Great Lakes, and have been trying to get angular 
>drilling off the shores of the lakes for some time, which could mean 
>your relatives  would be looking at oil rigs in the U P. Or worse 
>they are wanting to mine zinc in the Shakey Lakes Area which would 
>make drastic negative affects on that whole area in the U P, 
>affecting water, wildlife and land value as well, and since most 
>folks do not own the mineral rights to their land, guess who does 
>and can come on your land to reap the minerals? The huge mining 
>company, so far the local people and legislators have managed to 
>keep at bay. I'm not a worshipper of land but I think we need to 
>make smart decisions to maintain stewardship of what has been given 
>to us to live. Even a dog knows not to soil his own den.
>
>Brad
>
>
>
>on 06:08 AM 6/30/2007, Kathy Du Bois said:
>
>Okay, Brad,
>         Since you liked the stick about the food and fuel, how 
> about a log discussing our environmental policies which are 
> destroying our country.  Our environmental policies are the main 
> reason that forest fires are so bad because they refuse to allow 
> the dead brush to be cleared away.  You mentioned earlier that Bush 
> is considering selling off our national parks to improve our 
> highways?  ?Forget it.  It will never happen.  The 
> environmentalists would crucify him in the press if he did and 
> right now, he's looking for a legacy, not a crucifixion.  The 
> reason that we cannot be self sufficient in fuel and energy is 
> because the environmentalists won't let us build refineries or 
> explore other energy sources.  Instead of us subduing and caring 
> for the earth, we are being ruled by some who wish to worship the 
> earth and rid it of people altogether.  Now, before anyone gets 
> bent out of shape on my stand, I will tell you that I am an avid 
> recycler.  I recycle everything from paper to tin.  I compost.  I'm 
> lucky if I can scrape together one bag of garbage to go in our 
> local land fill per week, so I'm not talking about running rough 
> shod over the earth and destroying it because I'm a person and have 
> a right to do so, but I understand what my God given relationship 
> is supposed to be with the earth and worshiping it at the cost of 
> man's life isn't it.
>
>         We see in all of this how man is getting it backwards.  We 
> love the earth above people.  We think that compassion is letting 
> people come into our space and bring their filthiness with them 
> instead of insisting that they learn how to do better.  We let them 
> worship whatever they want instead of teaching them about Christ 
> because to do so would appear judgmental and that would be 
> cruel.  Why isn't letting them die in sin and ignorance and 
> squaller seen as cruel.  It's all about how things appear and not 
> about truth and reality any more.  America has become shallow, 
> where Paris Hilton's suffering in prison is more important than 
> those who are really suffering from poverty and injustice.  On top 
> of all that, the church has lost its voice.  It has the answer to 
> all this, but is too timid to speak out.
>
>         Just one more thing, you're lucky that barbicuing hasn't 
> been ban in Wisconsin, as it has in either Denmark, or Norway, I 
> can't remember which, but as long as you're doing it, have a bratt 
> for me.  Man I miss those things.
>
>Kathy