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john schwery <[log in to unmask]>
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Vicki, ah, that can be hard on your hands.

earlier, Vicki, wrote:
>Customer  Service type stuff with phones and computer.
>
>----- Original Message ----- From: "john schwery" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 1:27 PM
>Subject: Re: Vicki's hand
>
>
>>Vicki, I have forgotten.  What do you do for work?
>>
>>earlier, Vicki, wrote:
>>>We'll do.  Thanks.
>>>
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Scovell" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 12:31 PM
>>>Subject: Re: Vicki's hand
>>>
>>>
>>>>Well, be sure and let us know what you find out.
>>>>
>>>>Phil.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Vicki" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 9:48 AM
>>>>Subject: Re: Vicki's hand
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Well, it's kind of weird. My left hand doesn't always want to 
>>>>>close. It's painful to do so, most of the time. Opening it is a 
>>>>>challenge as well. When I have to use my other hand to open my 
>>>>>ring finger, for example,  it makes this pop noise and sneds a 
>>>>>shock wave of pain to accompany it. My wrist seems to be 
>>>>>somewhat unhappy as well. That's in short why the hand doc visit coming up.
>>>>>
>>>>>Vicki
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>From: Phil Scovell <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>>Date: Thursday, August 1, 2013 10:54 pm
>>>>>Subject: Vicki's hand
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Vic,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>What's wrong with your hand?  I have asked on the list so 
>>>>>>other's can hear, too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Phil.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>How Big Is God?  The Size Of Your Mouth.
>>>>>>www.SafePlaceFellowship.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   ----- Original Message -----   From: Vicki
>>>>>>   To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>>>   Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2013 9:35 PM
>>>>>>   Subject: Re: Doctor's appointment concerning my back today
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   Phil and everybody,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   Sorry to hear that your visit was less positive than you had 
>>>>>> hoped it would be.  Like you say, the good thing is that you 
>>>>>> know what you know. I can't imagine having that much pain 
>>>>>> though and I sure will be praying. I get some living with pain 
>>>>>> myself as I am in therapy for a torn achiles Tendon.  The 
>>>>>> therapy has helped a great deal and I have exercises to do at 
>>>>>> home which I am doing.  In addition, I'm headed to a hand 
>>>>>> surgeon on the 13th and praying no surgery to be necessary, 
>>>>>> and everything to be returned to manageable and even more than 
>>>>>> what I'm believing for.  Will be praying that for you too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   Vicki
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   .
>>>>>>     ----- Original Message -----     From: Phil Scovell
>>>>>>     To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>>>     Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2013 7:13 PM
>>>>>>     Subject: Doctor's appointment concerning my back today
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     First, happy 137th birthday Colorado.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     My appointment with the back doctor wasn't all that 
>>>>>> encouraging today.  Basically, the x-rays they took today, 
>>>>>> plus the physical tests they did, revealed my lower back is 
>>>>>> telescoping, that is, the vertebras are all pressing 
>>>>>> downward.  As they  do, they are pressuring the disks which in 
>>>>>> turn are spreading out, slipping to the sides, and coming in 
>>>>>> contact with nerves which creates the pain in all the various 
>>>>>> locations. The pain changes from the lower back, into my hips, 
>>>>>> back of my legs, and all the way down to my ankles.  Each back 
>>>>>> episode, creates pain in multiple places but not the same 
>>>>>> places each and every time.  Also, the pain level my be from 
>>>>>> mild to severe.  They do not recommend surgery because it 
>>>>>> would take a number of fusions of the vertebras to repair the 
>>>>>> damage that is ongoing.  They are recommending physical 
>>>>>> therapy in order to learn ways of exercising to the point the 
>>>>>> vertebras pull back from each other further and thus creating 
>>>>>> less pressure on the disks.  In short, learn to live with it. 
>>>>>> I was hoping it would be a single set of vertebra that could 
>>>>>> be fused but that isn't the case.  The pain episodes will 
>>>>>> continue but hopefully, with the PT, not as often and the 
>>>>>> exercises can be continued at home and should help keep things 
>>>>>> in better shape; maybe. At some point, if the PT is helping, I 
>>>>>> can go back and get shots in different places of my lower back 
>>>>>> to help with pain management, if it gets unbearable, that is, 
>>>>>> but only time will tell.  Learning to live with pain is going 
>>>>>> to be the name of the game.  At least now I know. Certainly 
>>>>>> not as encouraging as I would have hoped but knowing is better 
>>>>>> than not knowing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Phil.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Satan Has A God Complex
>>>>>>     www.SafePlaceFellowship.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Vic,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>What's wrong with your hand?  I have asked on the list so 
>>>>>>other's can hear, too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Phil.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>How Big Is God?  The Size Of Your Mouth.
>>>>>>www.SafePlaceFellowship.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: Vicki
>>>>>>To: ECHURCH-USA@LISTSERV.ICORS..ORG
>>>>>>Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2013 9:35 PM
>>>>>>Subject: Re: Doctor's appointment concerning my back today
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Phil and everybody,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Sorry to hear that your visit was less positive than you had 
>>>>>>hoped it would be.  Like you say, the good thing is that you 
>>>>>>know what you know. I can't imagine having that much pain 
>>>>>>though and I sure will be praying. I get some living with pain 
>>>>>>myself as I am in therapy for a torn achiles Tendon.  The 
>>>>>>therapy has helped a great deal and I have exercises to do at 
>>>>>>home which I am doing.  In addition, I'm headed to a hand 
>>>>>>surgeon on the 13th and praying no surgery to be necessary, and 
>>>>>>everything to be returned to manageable and even more than what 
>>>>>>I'm believing for.  Will be praying that for you too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Vicki
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>.
>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: Phil Scovell
>>>>>>To: ECHURCH-USA@LISTSERV.ICORS..ORG
>>>>>>Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2013 7:13 PM
>>>>>>Subject: Doctor's appointment concerning my back today
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>First, happy 137th birthday Colorado.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>My appointment with the back doctor wasn't all that encouraging 
>>>>>>today. Basically, the x-rays they took today, plus the physical 
>>>>>>tests they did, revealed my lower back is telescoping, that is, 
>>>>>>the vertebras are all pressing downward.  As they  do, they are 
>>>>>>pressuring the disks which in turn are spreading out, slipping 
>>>>>>to the sides, and coming in contact with nerves which creates 
>>>>>>the pain in all the various locations.  The pain changes from 
>>>>>>the lower back, into my hips, back of my legs, and all the way 
>>>>>>down to my ankles.  Each back episode, creates pain in multiple 
>>>>>>places but not the same places each and every time. Also, the 
>>>>>>pain level my be from mild to severe.  They do not recommend 
>>>>>>surgery because it would take a number of fusions of the 
>>>>>>vertebras to repair the damage that is ongoing.  They are 
>>>>>>recommending physical therapy in order to learn ways of 
>>>>>>exercising to the point the vertebras pull back from each other 
>>>>>>further and thus creating less pressure on the disks.  In 
>>>>>>short, learn to live with it.  I was hoping it would be a 
>>>>>>single set of vertebra that could be fused but that isn't the 
>>>>>>case. The pain episodes will continue but hopefully, with the 
>>>>>>PT, not as often and the exercises can be continued at home and 
>>>>>>should help keep things in better shape; maybe.  At some point, 
>>>>>>if the PT is helping, I can go back and get shots in different 
>>>>>>places of my lower back to help with pain management, if it 
>>>>>>gets unbearable, that is, but only time will tell.  Learning to 
>>>>>>live with pain is going to be the name of the game.  At least 
>>>>>>now I know. Certainly not as encouraging as I would have hoped 
>>>>>>but knowing is better than not knowing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Phil.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Satan Has A God Complex
>>>>>>www.SafePlaceFellowship.com
>>>
>>>John
>
>John

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