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Customer  Service type stuff with phones and computer.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "john schwery" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 1:27 PM
Subject: Re: Vicki's hand


> Vicki, I have forgotten.  What do you do for work?
>
> earlier, Vicki, wrote:
>>We'll do.  Thanks.
>>
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Scovell" 
>><[log in to unmask]>
>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 12:31 PM
>>Subject: Re: Vicki's hand
>>
>>
>>>Well, be sure and let us know what you find out.
>>>
>>>Phil.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Vicki" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 9:48 AM
>>>Subject: Re: Vicki's hand
>>>
>>>
>>>>Well, it's kind of weird. My left hand doesn't always want to close. 
>>>>It's painful to do so, most of the time. Opening it is a challenge as 
>>>>well. When I have to use my other hand to open my ring finger, for 
>>>>example,  it makes this pop noise and sneds a shock wave of pain to 
>>>>accompany it. My wrist seems to be somewhat unhappy as well. That's in 
>>>>short why the hand doc visit coming up.
>>>>
>>>>Vicki
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: Phil Scovell <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>Date: Thursday, August 1, 2013 10:54 pm
>>>>Subject: Vicki's hand
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Vic,
>>>>>
>>>>>What's wrong with your hand?  I have asked on the list so other's can 
>>>>>hear, too.
>>>>>
>>>>>Phil.
>>>>>
>>>>>How Big Is God?  The Size Of Your Mouth.
>>>>>www.SafePlaceFellowship.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>   ----- Original Message -----   From: Vicki
>>>>>   To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>>   Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2013 9:35 PM
>>>>>   Subject: Re: Doctor's appointment concerning my back today
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>   Phil and everybody,
>>>>>
>>>>>   Sorry to hear that your visit was less positive than you had hoped 
>>>>> it would be.  Like you say, the good thing is that you know what you 
>>>>> know. I can't imagine having that much pain though and I sure will be 
>>>>> praying. I get some living with pain myself as I am in therapy for a 
>>>>> torn achiles Tendon.  The therapy has helped a great deal and I have 
>>>>> exercises to do at home which I am doing.  In addition, I'm headed to 
>>>>> a hand surgeon on the 13th and praying no surgery to be necessary, and 
>>>>> everything to be returned to manageable and even more than what I'm 
>>>>> believing for.  Will be praying that for you too.
>>>>>
>>>>>   Vicki
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>   .
>>>>>     ----- Original Message -----     From: Phil Scovell
>>>>>     To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>>     Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2013 7:13 PM
>>>>>     Subject: Doctor's appointment concerning my back today
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     First, happy 137th birthday Colorado.
>>>>>
>>>>>     My appointment with the back doctor wasn't all that encouraging 
>>>>> today.  Basically, the x-rays they took today, plus the physical tests 
>>>>> they did, revealed my lower back is telescoping, that is, the 
>>>>> vertebras are all pressing downward.  As they  do, they are pressuring 
>>>>> the disks which in turn are spreading out, slipping to the sides, and 
>>>>> coming in contact with nerves which creates the pain in all the 
>>>>> various locations. The pain changes from the lower back, into my hips, 
>>>>> back of my legs, and all the way down to my ankles.  Each back 
>>>>> episode, creates pain in multiple places but not the same places each 
>>>>> and every time.  Also, the pain level my be from mild to severe.  They 
>>>>> do not recommend surgery because it would take a number of fusions of 
>>>>> the vertebras to repair the damage that is ongoing.  They are 
>>>>> recommending physical therapy in order to learn ways of exercising to 
>>>>> the point the vertebras pull back from each other further and thus 
>>>>> creating less pressure on the disks.  In short, learn to live with it. 
>>>>> I was hoping it would be a single set of vertebra that could be fused 
>>>>> but that isn't the case.  The pain episodes will continue but 
>>>>> hopefully, with the PT, not as often and the exercises can be 
>>>>> continued at home and should help keep things in better shape; maybe. 
>>>>> At some point, if the PT is helping, I can go back and get shots in 
>>>>> different places of my lower back to help with pain management, if it 
>>>>> gets unbearable, that is, but only time will tell.  Learning to live 
>>>>> with pain is going to be the name of the game.  At least now I know. 
>>>>> Certainly not as encouraging as I would have hoped but knowing is 
>>>>> better than not knowing.
>>>>>
>>>>>     Phil.
>>>>>
>>>>>     Satan Has A God Complex
>>>>>     www.SafePlaceFellowship.com
>>>>>
>>>>>Vic,
>>>>>
>>>>>What's wrong with your hand?  I have asked on the list so other's can 
>>>>>hear, too.
>>>>>
>>>>>Phil.
>>>>>
>>>>>How Big Is God?  The Size Of Your Mouth.
>>>>>www.SafePlaceFellowship.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: Vicki
>>>>>To: ECHURCH-USA@LISTSERV.ICORS..ORG
>>>>>Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2013 9:35 PM
>>>>>Subject: Re: Doctor's appointment concerning my back today
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Phil and everybody,
>>>>>
>>>>>Sorry to hear that your visit was less positive than you had hoped it 
>>>>>would be.  Like you say, the good thing is that you know what you know. 
>>>>>I can't imagine having that much pain though and I sure will be 
>>>>>praying. I get some living with pain myself as I am in therapy for a 
>>>>>torn achiles Tendon.  The therapy has helped a great deal and I have 
>>>>>exercises to do at home which I am doing.  In addition, I'm headed to a 
>>>>>hand surgeon on the 13th and praying no surgery to be necessary, and 
>>>>>everything to be returned to manageable and even more than what I'm 
>>>>>believing for.  Will be praying that for you too.
>>>>>
>>>>>Vicki
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>.
>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: Phil Scovell
>>>>>To: ECHURCH-USA@LISTSERV.ICORS..ORG
>>>>>Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2013 7:13 PM
>>>>>Subject: Doctor's appointment concerning my back today
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>First, happy 137th birthday Colorado.
>>>>>
>>>>>My appointment with the back doctor wasn't all that encouraging today. 
>>>>>Basically, the x-rays they took today, plus the physical tests they 
>>>>>did, revealed my lower back is telescoping, that is, the vertebras are 
>>>>>all pressing downward.  As they  do, they are pressuring the disks 
>>>>>which in turn are spreading out, slipping to the sides, and coming in 
>>>>>contact with nerves which creates the pain in all the various 
>>>>>locations.  The pain changes from the lower back, into my hips, back of 
>>>>>my legs, and all the way down to my ankles.  Each back episode, creates 
>>>>>pain in multiple places but not the same places each and every time. 
>>>>>Also, the pain level my be from mild to severe.  They do not recommend 
>>>>>surgery because it would take a number of fusions of the vertebras to 
>>>>>repair the damage that is ongoing.  They are recommending physical 
>>>>>therapy in order to learn ways of exercising to the point the vertebras 
>>>>>pull back from each other further and thus creating less pressure on 
>>>>>the disks.  In short, learn to live with it.  I was hoping it would be 
>>>>>a single set of vertebra that could be fused but that isn't the case. 
>>>>>The pain episodes will continue but hopefully, with the PT, not as 
>>>>>often and the exercises can be continued at home and should help keep 
>>>>>things in better shape; maybe.  At some point, if the PT is helping, I 
>>>>>can go back and get shots in different places of my lower back to help 
>>>>>with pain management, if it gets unbearable, that is, but only time 
>>>>>will tell.  Learning to live with pain is going to be the name of the 
>>>>>game.  At least now I know. Certainly not as encouraging as I would 
>>>>>have hoped but knowing is better than not knowing.
>>>>>
>>>>>Phil.
>>>>>
>>>>>Satan Has A God Complex
>>>>>www.SafePlaceFellowship.com
>>
>>John
> 

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