Hi  Vicki,
No, she never came to the Lord, as far as I can tell. she was an older
Italian Catholic and was not able to understand anything else but her
traditions.
I believe, however, that she walked in the light she had.
Vinny
----- Original Message -----
From: "Vicki and The Rors" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 1:07 AM
Subject: Re: the right church


> I'm sure it was Vinny, and with both husbands too.  When people let us
down,
> it sure forces us to look to God.  I hope your mom was able to move on and
> find fellowship.
>
>
> Vicki
>
>
> Vicki
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Vinny Samarco" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 11:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [ECHURCH-USA] the right church
>
>
> > HI Vicki,
> > The church, and human nature, for the most part, let my mom down.
> > When each of her tow husbands died, all her friends abandoned her, but
> from
> > the church, and socially.
> > That was a terible blow to all of us.
> > Vinny
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Vicki and The Rors" <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 6:01 PM
> > Subject: Re: the right church
> >
> >
> > > Marlene,
> > >
> > > Thanks for your comments.  That was a pretty short novel.  And, I
doubt
> > you
> > > offended anyone on this list.  Smile.
> > >
> > > I'm glad there were those who helped your mom get her life back on
> track.
> > > We all face things like death of a loved one, just because we live
down
> > here
> > > and belong to humanity, and I'm glad those V F W people showed
> compassion.
> > > I'm sorry
> > > that church going people didn't reach out to her.  Maybe some of the
VFW
> > > people were actually christians not belonging to the same church that
> your
> > > mom attends.  Maybe some were reaching out for the Lord.  Maybe some
> love
> > > the Lord but don't know Christ.  We all want friends and
companionship.
> > > Most of us really don't want to live our lives on an island.  But
> > sometimes
> > > the church doesn't get out of its four walls and reach out like they
> > should.
> > > In fact, I'm afraid this type of thing is more common than not.  In my
> > > growing up years, it was the usual thing for churches to band together
> to
> > > help and support one another when loved ones passed.  Even in my 20's,
I
> > > remember different churches reaching out and doing practical things
like
> > > providing food at funerals and afterwards reaching out to the family.
> Not
> > > that those acts were always perfect either, but you hardly even hear
of
> > that
> > > sort of thing being done now.  Or, at least I don't.
> > >
> > >
> > > On the other hand, maybe we have to get back to the basics of defining
> > what
> > > the church really is.
> > >
> > >
> > > By the way, I'd love to know just how you came to the Lord.
> > >
> > > Vicki
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >   ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "MKaiser" <[log in to unmask]>
> > > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > > Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 11:23 AM
> > > Subject: [ECHURCH-USA] the right church
> > >
> > >
> > > > I was speaking to a fellow lister last evening about things that are
> on
> > my
> > > > heart.  First of all, I hope I don't offend anyone, however I think
I
> > > should
> > > > say how I feel.
> > > >
> > > > When I was a child, I was never brought up in a church home like
> others
> > on
> > > > the list were.  I found the lord when I was an adult because when I
> was
> > in
> > > > boarding school I thought church was a drag.  I found out how
cliquish
> > and
> > > > non-caring Christians can be after my father died.  My mom goes to a
> big
> > > > church and maybe that's why they don't reach out and help people
after
> > > > they've lost a loved one.  The people who helped my mom out the most
> > > aren't
> > > > church goer's.  They belong to the VFW, (Veteran's of foreign wars.)
> > > That's
> > > > a social organization for veterans and their spouses.  They helped
her
> > > start
> > > > getting her life back on track, got her involved in several
community
> > > > projects.  She goes almost every Tuesday for toccos and sometimes
has
> a
> > > > couple of drinks.  I'm telling you all this because even if someone
> > finds
> > > > fellowship with people who are not church people, whose to say they
> > don't
> > > > love the lord after their own fashion.  Sorry for the novel.
> > > >
> > >
> >