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Remember Eli the one who taught Samuel.  I believe Eli was put in to the
bible to show us firstly that boys will be boys no matter the time frame.
Secondly to demonstrate what a complacent parent would lead to in the end.
I don't think it was Eli's fault altogether, I think he may have been too
absorbed in his work to notice properly but the results were the same. Keep
up the good work.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kathy Du Bois" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 8:27 AM
Subject: Re: The light truly is best!!!


> Vinny,
> Not only would he hate us if we buried our heads in the sand, but I don't
> know if we could ever forgive ourselves for such wanton neglect of his
> soul.  What keeps me going is the knowledge that I am answerable to God
for
> my part in all this as well.  Yes, Chris has free will, and his
> consequences are his own to deal with before God, but I am his parent and
> thus I have a roll as well.  I am answerable for my part.  Dobson was
right
> when he said that "parenting isn't for cowards."  Brother!
> Kathy
>
> At 09:52 PM 7/15/2005, you wrote:
> >Kathy,
> >it's only his old nature that hates you.  He would really ultimately hate
> >you if you burried your heads in the sand too.
> >Vinny
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Kathy Du Bois" <[log in to unmask]>
> >To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 1:52 PM
> >Subject: Re: The light truly is best!!!
> >
> >
> > > Karen,
> > > He did say last night that he is grateful to have parents who will go
to
> > > such lengths for him.  One other thing that we talked about last night
is
> > > one of his friends who is a real druggy and we both know that the
mother
> >in
> > > that situation has chosen  to bury her head in the sand.  Chris will
often
> > > make comments out of the blue about how, we're doing it the right way,
> >even
> > > though he still fights us tooth and nail.  I'm pretty sure that, even
> > > though he hates the consequences, he's pretty  glad that he has such
> >tough,
> > > nosy parents.
> > > Kathy
> > >
> > >
> > > At 11:46 AM 7/15/2005, you wrote:
> > > >All right Prasie the Lord.  Of course you know he is always in
> > > >control.  And God maybe showing Chris that he truly is loved.
Sometimes
> > > >kids act up because they think they are not loved.  Just keep
reminding
> > > >him that you do these things because you know he is better than how
he
> > > >acts and that you are doing it because you love him and he may not
> > > >understand it nhow but in later years he will look back and be
thankful
> > > >that it was this way.,
> > > >
> > > >--
> > > >Christ is either Lord of all or he is not Lord at all.
> > > >Karen Carter '74
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Hi guys,
> > > > > Thank you so much for praying.  What a wild day I have had.  This
> >morning,
> > > > > Greg talked to Nicki's mother and told her about the scheduled
> >appointment
> > > > > at planned parenthood.  Well, at first we thought that we weren't
> >going to
> > > > > be found out because Nicki's mother covered for us and said that
> >planned
> > > > > parenthood had called to remind her of her appointment.  We were
> >praising
> > > > > God that we were still going to escape detection.  Then, this
> >afternoon,
> > > > > before dinner, we don't know why, but Chris burst into our
bedroom,
> >where
> > > > > Greg was working on the lap top and just asked outright, how long
have
> >you
> > > > > guys been listening to our phone conversations?"  Well, we tried
to
> >talk a
> > > > > bit thehn, but Chris was very angry, understandably, so we just
> >dropped it
> > > > > and went to dinner.  I had a feeling that I had better stay home
from
> >bible
> > > > > study to face whatever storm was brewing.  Sure enough, I caught
Chris
> > > > > snooping around in our bedrom.  I calmly sat down on the bed and
Chris
> > > > > said, "what do you think I want to talk about Mom?"  So, I laid
back
> >and
> > > > > just told him to go for it.  He shut the door and sat down beside
me
> >on the
> > > > > bed and started asking questions about how much we knew and so on
and
> >so
> > > > > forth.  I explained to him that we started monitering him when he
> >started
> > > > > sneaking around and hanging around people that we didn't know.  I
was
> >also
> > > > > able to talk to him about birth controll and going back to his
> >original
> > > > > policy on abstaining from sex until marriage and, over all, it
went
> >pretty
> > > > > well.  We ended on a good note.  Unfortunately, we just had
another
> >tiff in
> > > > > the kitchen because he is grounded for the day and he still wants
to
> >go to
> > > > > Nicki's so life isn't good, or perfect or, whatever, but I feel
like
> >God
> > > > > gained another victory today in this crazy battle.  You guys
needed to
> >know
> > > > > because your prayers really helped.  Now I have to run because my
five
> > > > > minute turn on the computer is over. GRIN!   Besides, it's getting
> >wild
> > > > > around here again, but, there was a victory today.  Yea!
> > > > > Kathy
> > > > > .
> > >

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