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Vicki and The Rors <[log in to unmask]>
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Echurch-USA The Electronic Church <[log in to unmask]>
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Kerri,

Are you in a small town?  Not that it makes a difference, jobs just seem to
be hard to come by regardless.  I sure know what it's like, and it's no fun.

Vicki

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kerri" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2005 11:57 AM
Subject: Re: [ECHURCH-USA] spiritual abuse


> OH thanks, I just wish I knew what to do or where to look. tried
> volunteering at our comunity police office, tried the cancer agency,
> secretarial employment, human service worker, even taxi driving smile.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "virgie underwood" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2005 6:40 AM
> Subject: Re: spiritual abuse
>
>
> Kerri,
> I know how humiliating it can be when you are looking for work.
> I have been turned down many times because of my disability.
> They even told me that was why I did not get the job.
> Keep the faith and try not to get discouraged.
> Huggs and blessings.
> Virgie At 01:49 AM 7/3/2005, you wrote:
>
> >bergie et al, I have never worked but have sought it in so many places, I
> >could write a novel. I've taken employment seeking and assistance courses
> >for people with disabilities, been subjected to degrading psychological
> >vocational assessments, but all to no avail. I've even tried volunteer
work
> >seeking and nothing.
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "virgie underwood" <[log in to unmask]>
> >To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 1:22 PM
> >Subject: Re: spiritual abuse
> >
> >
> >Kerri,
> >I know what you mean.
> >I get frustrated with work sometimes and I think I would like to be
> >unemployed.
> >When I have a few days off, I realize I could not stand not working.
> >What kind of work have you done in the past?
> >Praying for you.
> >Huggs, Virgie At 01:42 PM 7/2/2005, you wrote:
> >
> > >Yes doing really well Bergie though getting tired of not working.
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "virgie underwood" <[log in to unmask]>
> > >To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > >Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 4:06 AM
> > >Subject: Re: spiritual abuse
> > >
> > >
> > >Kerri,
> > >Thanks.
> > >Hope you are doing well.
> > >Virgie At 09:56 PM 7/1/2005, you wrote:
> > >
> > > >I think personally you did fine, Bergie and besides you ca't rectify
it
> > > >now
> > > >and God knows yoru intent.
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: "virgie underwood" <[log in to unmask]>
> > > >To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > > >Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 3:20 PM
> > > >Subject: Re: spiritual abuse
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Keri,
> > > >I was very young and very shy and scared.
> > > >I did tell him that it was not time for me to be healed.
> > > >I wanted to say to him that Jesus could heal me without his help, but
I
> > > >was
> > > >afraid of getting a whipping when I got home.
> > > >I hope I did not misjudge that preacher.
> > > >Virgie At 01:46 PM 7/1/2005, you wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >Wow Bergie, that preacher soounded awful and he wanted
credit,instead
> > > > >of
> > > > >glorifying the lord. Whenever people ask if I believe in healing my
> > > > >answer
> > > > >is yes but I don't require it.
> > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > >From: "virgie underwood" <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > >To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > >Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 5:52 AM
> > > > >Subject: Re: spiritual abuse
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >Kerri,
> > > > >When I was a young girl, my step mother took me to a preacher who
was
> > > > >said
> > > > >to have healing power through the Lord.
> > > > >First, he put his hand on my head so hard that it hurt.
> > > > >He kept pushing on my head until I thought I was going to fall.
> > > > >He asked if I had faith in God, and did I think he could heal me.
> > > > >I answered yes, I do have faith and I believe that Jesus could heal
> > > > >me.
> > > > >He prayed, it seemed to me quite a long time.
> > > > >He asked me can you see now?
> > > > >I said yes, but no better than I could before you prayed.
> > > > >He told me that it was my fault that I didn't get healed because I
> > > > >did
> > > > >not
> > > > >have the faith.
> > > > >I answered, that I did have faith, but that I did not think it was
> > > > >the
> > > > >time
> > > > >that Jesus Christ had chosen for me to see.
> > > > >I said that when it is time for me to be healed, Jesus will do it.
> > > > >What his comments did to me was to make me doubt my faith.
> > > > >It made me think for a while that it was my fault that I was not
> > > > >healed.
> > > > >I have prayed about this and have discovered that it was not my
> > > > >fault.
> > > > >I really believe that this preacher was looking for credit and
glory
> > > > >for
> > > > >himself.
> > > > >I pray that Jesus will forgive me if I am wrong about that.
> > > > >I also pray that he will reveal the truth to me about this man if I
> > > > >am
> > > > >wrong.
> > > > >I know we are not suppose to judge others, and I try not to do
that.
> > > > >I do not believe that it was abuse though.
> > > > >My step mother wanted to help me because she loved me.
> > > > >I can understand how you are feeling and why you feel that way.
> > > > >Please share with us any time.
> > > > >You will not be chastised here for your feelings and concerns.
> > > > >Huggs and blessings.
> > > > >Yours in Christ
> > > > >Virgie At 01:39 AM 7/1/2005, you wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >Hello all. Is there usch a thing as spiritual abuse? I as this
> > > > > >because
> > > > > >an
> > > > > >issue occured when a child that I call abuse and wanted yor
opinion
> > > > > >on
> > > > > >it.
> > > > > >     My parents took me at a very young age to a healer probably
in
> > > > > > 1979
> > > > > > or
> > > > > >early eighties because they thought I was going to die of my bone
> > > > > >disease.
> > > > > >This man they told them, had the gift of discernment and that God
> > > > > >revealed
> > > > > >things about the people he prayed for. This man asked me if I had
> > > > > >spirits
> > > > > >in
> > > > > >me like spirits of anger or spirits of doubt. Now mind you I was
> > > > > >saved
> > > > > >by
> > > > > >the time I was 5 years old. He then plunked his hand on my head
and
> > > > > >started
> > > > > >chanting leave leave to these spirits. I remember feeling really
> > > > > >nervous
> > > > > >but
> > > > > >said nohting thinking my parents knew best. the man also said
maybe
> > > > > >I'd
> > > > > >see
> > > > > >soon which never happened. Well time passed, and what happened
was
> > > > > >that
> > > > > >people ignored me a lot, I'd get rejected often, never had
friends
> > > > > >and
> > > > > >then
> > > > > >couldn't find work. Last December, I was wondering why I never
> > > > > >could
> > > > > >trust
> > > > > >God propperly, as I have a great relationship with my dad, when
the
> > > > > >above
> > > > > >scene was revealed to me. I remembered everything in total
detail,
> > > > > >most
> > > > > >of
> > > > > >which I'd forgotten. My questions are
> > > > > >1. Is this or was this abuse and
> > > > > >2. Do you think there is any corelation between my utter
inability
> > > > > >to
> > > > > >find
> > > > > >work and people ignoring me. Now please know, I dislike healing
> > > > > >intesnely,
> > > > > >it scares me, the holy spirit in fact I find unnerving and never
> > > > > >knew
> > > > > >why.
> > > > > >What we think happened was that I subconsciously felt that since
> > > > > >this
> > > > > >guy
> > > > > >asked if I had all these spirits in me, the holy spirit either
was
> > > > > >no
> > > > > >good
> > > > > >or thought ill of me.  to top that all off, my parents took me to
> > > > > >these
> > > > > >types of things repeatedly not knowing this isn't good for a
child.
> > > > > >I
> > > > > >hope
> > > > > >you don't think this is utter haracy, was very very nervous to
> > > > > >reveal
> > > > > >this
> > > > > >to anyone. Be glad for all God is planning for you. Be patient in
> > > > > >trouble,
> > > > > >and always be prayerful.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >                               Romans 12:12, NLT
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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