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Vinny Samarco <[log in to unmask]>
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Fri, 1 Jul 2005 16:45:43 -0700
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Virgi,
I had the same thing happen to me.  Several people of this minister's
henchmen came to tell me that this guy could heal me.  They dragged me up to
the front.
When the minister asked me if I believed he could heal me, I said that I
didn't think this was the right time.
So he turned to the audience and said"  With a heart like that, God can't do
anything for you.
I have lots more stories but won't tel them.
After that, I went to the Lord with all this.  He said to me that I was not
to ask for healing or even think of it until He told me to do so.
So, as long as I stay away from healing preachers, I am not a target.
Vinny
----- Original Message -----
From: "virgie underwood" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 3:20 PM
Subject: Re: spiritual abuse


> Keri,
> I was very young and very shy and scared.
> I did tell him that it was not time for me to be healed.
> I wanted to say to him that Jesus could heal me without his help, but I
was
> afraid of getting a whipping when I got home.
> I hope I did not misjudge that preacher.
> Virgie At 01:46 PM 7/1/2005, you wrote:
>
> >Wow Bergie, that preacher soounded awful and he wanted credit,instead of
> >glorifying the lord. Whenever people ask if I believe in healing my
answer
> >is yes but I don't require it.
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "virgie underwood" <[log in to unmask]>
> >To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 5:52 AM
> >Subject: Re: spiritual abuse
> >
> >
> >Kerri,
> >When I was a young girl, my step mother took me to a preacher who was
said
> >to have healing power through the Lord.
> >First, he put his hand on my head so hard that it hurt.
> >He kept pushing on my head until I thought I was going to fall.
> >He asked if I had faith in God, and did I think he could heal me.
> >I answered yes, I do have faith and I believe that Jesus could heal me.
> >He prayed, it seemed to me quite a long time.
> >He asked me can you see now?
> >I said yes, but no better than I could before you prayed.
> >He told me that it was my fault that I didn't get healed because I did
not
> >have the faith.
> >I answered, that I did have faith, but that I did not think it was the
time
> >that Jesus Christ had chosen for me to see.
> >I said that when it is time for me to be healed, Jesus will do it.
> >What his comments did to me was to make me doubt my faith.
> >It made me think for a while that it was my fault that I was not healed.
> >I have prayed about this and have discovered that it was not my fault.
> >I really believe that this preacher was looking for credit and glory for
> >himself.
> >I pray that Jesus will forgive me if I am wrong about that.
> >I also pray that he will reveal the truth to me about this man if I am
> >wrong.
> >I know we are not suppose to judge others, and I try not to do that.
> >I do not believe that it was abuse though.
> >My step mother wanted to help me because she loved me.
> >I can understand how you are feeling and why you feel that way.
> >Please share with us any time.
> >You will not be chastised here for your feelings and concerns.
> >Huggs and blessings.
> >Yours in Christ
> >Virgie At 01:39 AM 7/1/2005, you wrote:
> >
> > >Hello all. Is there usch a thing as spiritual abuse? I as this because
an
> > >issue occured when a child that I call abuse and wanted yor opinion on
it.
> > >     My parents took me at a very young age to a healer probably in
1979 or
> > >early eighties because they thought I was going to die of my bone
disease.
> > >This man they told them, had the gift of discernment and that God
revealed
> > >things about the people he prayed for. This man asked me if I had
spirits
> > >in
> > >me like spirits of anger or spirits of doubt. Now mind you I was saved
by
> > >the time I was 5 years old. He then plunked his hand on my head and
started
> > >chanting leave leave to these spirits. I remember feeling really
nervous
> > >but
> > >said nohting thinking my parents knew best. the man also said maybe I'd
see
> > >soon which never happened. Well time passed, and what happened was that
> > >people ignored me a lot, I'd get rejected often, never had friends and
then
> > >couldn't find work. Last December, I was wondering why I never could
trust
> > >God propperly, as I have a great relationship with my dad, when the
above
> > >scene was revealed to me. I remembered everything in total detail, most
of
> > >which I'd forgotten. My questions are
> > >1. Is this or was this abuse and
> > >2. Do you think there is any corelation between my utter inability to
find
> > >work and people ignoring me. Now please know, I dislike healing
intesnely,
> > >it scares me, the holy spirit in fact I find unnerving and never knew
why.
> > >What we think happened was that I subconsciously felt that since this
guy
> > >asked if I had all these spirits in me, the holy spirit either was no
good
> > >or thought ill of me.  to top that all off, my parents took me to these
> > >types of things repeatedly not knowing this isn't good for a child. I
hope
> > >you don't think this is utter haracy, was very very nervous to reveal
this
> > >to anyone. Be glad for all God is planning for you. Be patient in
trouble,
> > >and always be prayerful.
> > >
> > >                               Romans 12:12, NLT
> > >
> > >
> > >
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