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Hi Vicky, it has about 100 htousand people but what it has in population it
sure lacks in resources. We only have one college which doesn't offer trade
type courses like medical transcription or courg stenographer etc. All the
employment I'd like are in Vancouver which is an hour and a half away and
very expensive.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Vicki and The Rors" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2005 3:34 PM
Subject: Re: spiritual abuse


Kerri,

Are you in a small town?  Not that it makes a difference, jobs just seem to
be hard to come by regardless.  I sure know what it's like, and it's no fun.

Vicki

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kerri" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2005 11:57 AM
Subject: Re: [ECHURCH-USA] spiritual abuse


> OH thanks, I just wish I knew what to do or where to look. tried
> volunteering at our comunity police office, tried the cancer agency,
> secretarial employment, human service worker, even taxi driving smile.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "virgie underwood" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2005 6:40 AM
> Subject: Re: spiritual abuse
>
>
> Kerri,
> I know how humiliating it can be when you are looking for work.
> I have been turned down many times because of my disability.
> They even told me that was why I did not get the job.
> Keep the faith and try not to get discouraged.
> Huggs and blessings.
> Virgie At 01:49 AM 7/3/2005, you wrote:
>
> >bergie et al, I have never worked but have sought it in so many places, I
> >could write a novel. I've taken employment seeking and assistance courses
> >for people with disabilities, been subjected to degrading psychological
> >vocational assessments, but all to no avail. I've even tried volunteer
work
> >seeking and nothing.
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "virgie underwood" <[log in to unmask]>
> >To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 1:22 PM
> >Subject: Re: spiritual abuse
> >
> >
> >Kerri,
> >I know what you mean.
> >I get frustrated with work sometimes and I think I would like to be
> >unemployed.
> >When I have a few days off, I realize I could not stand not working.
> >What kind of work have you done in the past?
> >Praying for you.
> >Huggs, Virgie At 01:42 PM 7/2/2005, you wrote:
> >
> > >Yes doing really well Bergie though getting tired of not working.
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "virgie underwood" <[log in to unmask]>
> > >To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > >Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 4:06 AM
> > >Subject: Re: spiritual abuse
> > >
> > >
> > >Kerri,
> > >Thanks.
> > >Hope you are doing well.
> > >Virgie At 09:56 PM 7/1/2005, you wrote:
> > >
> > > >I think personally you did fine, Bergie and besides you ca't rectify
it
> > > >now
> > > >and God knows yoru intent.
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: "virgie underwood" <[log in to unmask]>
> > > >To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > > >Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 3:20 PM
> > > >Subject: Re: spiritual abuse
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Keri,
> > > >I was very young and very shy and scared.
> > > >I did tell him that it was not time for me to be healed.
> > > >I wanted to say to him that Jesus could heal me without his help, but
I
> > > >was
> > > >afraid of getting a whipping when I got home.
> > > >I hope I did not misjudge that preacher.
> > > >Virgie At 01:46 PM 7/1/2005, you wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >Wow Bergie, that preacher soounded awful and he wanted
credit,instead
> > > > >of
> > > > >glorifying the lord. Whenever people ask if I believe in healing my
> > > > >answer
> > > > >is yes but I don't require it.
> > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > >From: "virgie underwood" <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > >To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > >Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 5:52 AM
> > > > >Subject: Re: spiritual abuse
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >Kerri,
> > > > >When I was a young girl, my step mother took me to a preacher who
was
> > > > >said
> > > > >to have healing power through the Lord.
> > > > >First, he put his hand on my head so hard that it hurt.
> > > > >He kept pushing on my head until I thought I was going to fall.
> > > > >He asked if I had faith in God, and did I think he could heal me.
> > > > >I answered yes, I do have faith and I believe that Jesus could heal
> > > > >me.
> > > > >He prayed, it seemed to me quite a long time.
> > > > >He asked me can you see now?
> > > > >I said yes, but no better than I could before you prayed.
> > > > >He told me that it was my fault that I didn't get healed because I
> > > > >did
> > > > >not
> > > > >have the faith.
> > > > >I answered, that I did have faith, but that I did not think it was
> > > > >the
> > > > >time
> > > > >that Jesus Christ had chosen for me to see.
> > > > >I said that when it is time for me to be healed, Jesus will do it.
> > > > >What his comments did to me was to make me doubt my faith.
> > > > >It made me think for a while that it was my fault that I was not
> > > > >healed.
> > > > >I have prayed about this and have discovered that it was not my
> > > > >fault.
> > > > >I really believe that this preacher was looking for credit and
glory
> > > > >for
> > > > >himself.
> > > > >I pray that Jesus will forgive me if I am wrong about that.
> > > > >I also pray that he will reveal the truth to me about this man if I
> > > > >am
> > > > >wrong.
> > > > >I know we are not suppose to judge others, and I try not to do
that.
> > > > >I do not believe that it was abuse though.
> > > > >My step mother wanted to help me because she loved me.
> > > > >I can understand how you are feeling and why you feel that way.
> > > > >Please share with us any time.
> > > > >You will not be chastised here for your feelings and concerns.
> > > > >Huggs and blessings.
> > > > >Yours in Christ
> > > > >Virgie At 01:39 AM 7/1/2005, you wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >Hello all. Is there usch a thing as spiritual abuse? I as this
> > > > > >because
> > > > > >an
> > > > > >issue occured when a child that I call abuse and wanted yor
opinion
> > > > > >on
> > > > > >it.
> > > > > >     My parents took me at a very young age to a healer probably
in
> > > > > > 1979
> > > > > > or
> > > > > >early eighties because they thought I was going to die of my bone
> > > > > >disease.
> > > > > >This man they told them, had the gift of discernment and that God
> > > > > >revealed
> > > > > >things about the people he prayed for. This man asked me if I had
> > > > > >spirits
> > > > > >in
> > > > > >me like spirits of anger or spirits of doubt. Now mind you I was
> > > > > >saved
> > > > > >by
> > > > > >the time I was 5 years old. He then plunked his hand on my head
and
> > > > > >started
> > > > > >chanting leave leave to these spirits. I remember feeling really
> > > > > >nervous
> > > > > >but
> > > > > >said nohting thinking my parents knew best. the man also said
maybe
> > > > > >I'd
> > > > > >see
> > > > > >soon which never happened. Well time passed, and what happened
was
> > > > > >that
> > > > > >people ignored me a lot, I'd get rejected often, never had
friends
> > > > > >and
> > > > > >then
> > > > > >couldn't find work. Last December, I was wondering why I never
> > > > > >could
> > > > > >trust
> > > > > >God propperly, as I have a great relationship with my dad, when
the
> > > > > >above
> > > > > >scene was revealed to me. I remembered everything in total
detail,
> > > > > >most
> > > > > >of
> > > > > >which I'd forgotten. My questions are
> > > > > >1. Is this or was this abuse and
> > > > > >2. Do you think there is any corelation between my utter
inability
> > > > > >to
> > > > > >find
> > > > > >work and people ignoring me. Now please know, I dislike healing
> > > > > >intesnely,
> > > > > >it scares me, the holy spirit in fact I find unnerving and never
> > > > > >knew
> > > > > >why.
> > > > > >What we think happened was that I subconsciously felt that since
> > > > > >this
> > > > > >guy
> > > > > >asked if I had all these spirits in me, the holy spirit either
was
> > > > > >no
> > > > > >good
> > > > > >or thought ill of me.  to top that all off, my parents took me to
> > > > > >these
> > > > > >types of things repeatedly not knowing this isn't good for a
child.
> > > > > >I
> > > > > >hope
> > > > > >you don't think this is utter haracy, was very very nervous to
> > > > > >reveal
> > > > > >this
> > > > > >to anyone. Be glad for all God is planning for you. Be patient in
> > > > > >trouble,
> > > > > >and always be prayerful.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >                               Romans 12:12, NLT
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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