Dear Karen,
Please do share that with us.
I just can't believe that if someone is truly Born Again, and
who has tried to live a good life serving Jesus, and who is a
Christian, that if they were so depressed that they just couldn't
handle life any longer, that God would send them to Hell! Not our
Loving God! Really!
Now if they denied God, that's another story, am I correct?
Come on Phil, Mike, and others who are more Biblical knowledgable than I am.
Let's see scriptures here, please. <smile>
Thanks much.
Many Blessings,
Pat Ferguson
"I can Do all Things Through Christ Who Strengthens Me" Philippians 4:13.
At 09:51 AM 8/19/2014, you wrote:
>Yes I do believe when you believe in God and have accepted Jesus if
>you are sucicidal God will intervene. Unless you totally denied God.
>I will have to write about a time I tried to murder myself and how
>God intervened.
>
>Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Aug 18, 2014, at 17:51, Angel <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >
> > This is why your relative was not successful in his attempts to
> commit suicide. How often have we all felt our minds were clouded
> at times, and felt no one loved us, including the good God. how
> often have we felt our burdens were too much for us to bare. Did
> we kill ourselves? No we did not. Particularly when we know
> beyond a shadow of a doubt. Because it is written in the
> bible. God never gives us burdens beyond our strength, with the
> assistance of the Holy Spirit to bare. If what you say were true.
> Judas would be now in heaven. Which we know he isn't, and he
> walked with God himself. Would an omniscient God do many of the
> things he obviously does, if he were us. Of course he
> wouldn't. One of which might have been to allow the fall in the
> first place. If we are taught from birth or from our earliest
> remembrance how wrong a thing it is to kill ones self, and if we
> are taught there are those excluding the good God who are always
> ready to help us. Should we kill ourselves. fewer might be likely
> to do such a horrible thing. Rather than assuming mental lapses
> were excuses for sin. After all, aren't all temptations designed
> specifically to cloud our minds. Causing us to think imperfectly
> about all sorts of things. Providing rationalizations for all
> sorts of sins. When we resist temptation successfully, and turn to
> the Holy Spirit who lives within us for strength to whether
> whatever storms of life we face. We will be a successful winner of
> the race set before us, and will then receive our starry crown in
> heaven. Provided we don't kill ourselves first that is.
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doris &Hubby Chris" <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Monday, August 18, 2014 10:40 AM
> > Subject: Re: Did you hear about Robin Williams?
> >
> >
> >> The German word for \suicide most appropriately is
> "self-murder". Yet I wonder about this. Chris's dad suffered from
> chronic clinical depression and attempted suicide several times.
> Fortunately, he was never successful. However, would an omniscient
> loving God put a person who is ill in hell because their mind is
> clouded at the time? I really cannot see this happening.
> >>
> >> in his grip of grace!
> >>
> >> Doris
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> At 10:17 AM 8/18/2014, you wrote:
> >>> When a person commits suicide he goes to hell. No "get out of
> jail free card." This is true in all religions. Because he
> murders himself. We can judge those who have committed this
> horrible act surely. My nephew once decided in a drunken state, to
> commit suicide. Because he was "saved" and he wanted to see, and
> to be with Jesus. Because he judged his life to be
> miserable. Without any hope of getting better. I talked to him,
> and told him he surely wouldn't be seeing Jesus if he did kill
> himself.; Not to mention the hurt and anguish he would be causing
> his dear mother. Who never did anyone any harm what-so-ever. He
> chose to just sleep it off somewhere, and has now a much better and
> finer life than he had then. Which he would never have had had he
> committed suicide.
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: <mailto:[log in to unmask]>Pat Ferguson
> >>> To: <mailto:[log in to unmask]>[log in to unmask]
> >>> Sent: Monday, August 18, 2014 9:39 AM
> >>> Subject: Re: Did you hear about Robin Williams?
> >>>
> >>> Okay, folks, this is not true. It was mentioned in an email
> from The Elijah List, that Robin Williams had Accepted Jesus as his
> personal Savior many years ago.
> >>>
> >>> Who are we to judge?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks much.
> >>>
> >>> Many Blessings,
> >>>
> >>> Pat Ferguson
> >>> "I can Do all Things Through Christ Who Strengthens Me."
> Phillippians 4:13.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> At 05:33 PM 8/16/2014, you wrote:
> >>>> Yes very sad. He didn't know Jesus. So he had no hope.
> >>>>
> >>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Aug 12, 2014, at 12:02, Angel
> <<mailto:[log in to unmask]>[log in to unmask] > wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Did you hear Robin Williams killed himself because he was
> depressed? Well, here is an example of a man who either didn't, or
> didn't know he had the option of casting all his care on the
> Lord. Rather he probably took all those serotonin managing drugs
> to manage his depression. Which, rather than truly bringing Pease
> to the soul, jump start the brain in to producing more serotonin
> than it had been producing. Then when the receptors exhaust
> themselves, the person slides in to an even deeper, more profound
> depression than he began with when he began taking the drugs. It
> would have been so much simpler had he learned the secret Jesus
> shared with us two thousand years ago to cast all his care on Him.
> After all, drug companies make a business from the sale of the
> drugs they make us think we need to cure this or that thing. He
> would have been a lot happier and more healthy mentally and
> physically than he is today. How it is people can keep having more
> faith in human doctors than they have in the God of the
> universe never will stop amazing me. Not to mention he is truly
> the devil's now. Being in hell as he now is. Isn't it simpler to
> cast ones cares on Jesus than to risk languishing and suffering
> hell for eternity. Should one go so far into depression one kills
> oneself? I certainly do. In fact, I will bet fewer people die
> from taking Jesus advice concerning how to live than who die
> putting their whole faith in what it is doctors say for them to
> do. That is why I don't take their advice if I can avoid it. In
> fact, I listen to doctors as often as sinners read the bible and
> take Jesus advice regarding how to live.
> >>>>> **The nice thing about being a celebrity is that
> >>>>> if you bore people they think it's their fault.**
> >>>>> Henry Kissinger
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
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