The only thing that nees to be said to that is Amen
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I would rather live my life as if there is a God, and die to find out there isn't, than live my life as if there isn't, and die to find out there is
IN GOD WE TRUST
Karen Carter '74
-KC- Ministries
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From: Rhonda Partain <[log in to unmask]>
> Thank God for being real, I am tired of fakeness!
> I don't have all the answers, sometimes I cry, sometimes I ask Why,
> Sometimes I am angry,
> Confused,
> Hurt,
> Frustrated,
> And believe it or not...
> God still loves me.
> People need desperately to know that there is a real God,
> And we can come to Him with our Real life,
> Real hurts real pain, real question, real doubts,
> Good for you, that you share, everything,
> Not just the sunshine and roses,
> Rhonda
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: The Electronic Church [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
> Behalf Of Kathy Du Bois
> Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 10:44 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: for God's Glory a devotion that caused my question...
>
> Brad,
> While it hurts, I have to say that I do see how the Lord is
> getting a lot of glory in our dealings with Chris. Our congregation
> consists of mostly older attenders, probably bordering on
> the depression generation. Most of them have lost there kids, the
> baby boomer generation to the faith. Many of them feel like failures
> and have given up trying to evangelize or talk about their faith at
> all because, they are asking themselves, if they couldn't convince
> their kids, how can they convince anybody? Also, their generation
> was taught to keep a stiff upper lip and put a good face on things
> so, even when you're burning up, smile and don't
> complain! GRIN! Greg and I haven't done that. We've been
> real. The people have seen me cry, in public, horror of horrors,
> over our situation and they've seen us pray and continually try knew
> things. We share the successes, such as our dinner with Chris last
> night, along with our failures. While I wish it weren't us, I
> believe that our lives have given them some encouragement to continue
> hoping and praying, and in some cases, sharing the hope that is
> within them to others.
> Also, Greg and I have gained a lot of sensitivity which is
> finally moving us, maybe, in a direction, to help others. We've just
> started doing marriage counselling this week with a couple that is
> really having a tough go of it, but we've been able to come at their
> problems with an attitude of, we're walking with you, not above you
> with all the answers. They've been responding well and if this
> family does manage to stay together, the Lord be praise for using us
> as instruments of healing. they've seen us be real and I believe
> that that helps them to be more comfortable.
> I can't help but give God glory and praise when Chris shows
> me what unconditional love looks like and I become amazed that, no
> matter how low I'm willing to go in my love for Chris, Jesus went
> even lower to love and rescue me. I have learned so much about God's
> love by parenting Chris and I am free in sharing what I have
> learned with others. God gets the glory in that as well.
> With my blindness, while I don't really like being this
> example, I know that other people are encouraged to keep trying when
> they see how hard I work to try to master or achieve something. If
> I, through my weakness, can inspire others to try harder to serve,
> then it is really God who is being served in the end and He receives
> the glory for it.
> Don't get me wrong. I'd rather be healed. I'd rather be an
> example of the miraculous power of Jesus Christ. I get so confused
> by the passages that tell us to, "ask anything in His name." I ask,
> but do not receive. It reminds me of the song, "If I were a rich
> man," from the musical, "fiddler on the Roof." The father asks,
> "Would it spoil some vast eternal plan if I were a wealthy man? I
> often ask God, "Would it really make such a big difference in your
> vast scheme of things if I could see?" The singer goes on to lay out
> all the things that he could do if he were rich. I talk to the Lord
> about all the ways that I could be more affective if I could
> see. For now, I guess that the Lord's answer is "no." I don't know
> if it is because I don't have enough faith or because I am more
> useful to Him in my present condition. I wish I did know so that, I
> could quit bugging God and just move on. but, I don't know, so I
> continue to make my request and still serve and do what I can and
> pray that, I will get my anser. I'd prefer it in this life and I'd
> prefer it to be what I want, but my head tells me that I may not be
> afforded that luxury.
> In our devotions the other day was this quote, "Keep
> praying, but be grateful that God's answers are wiser than some of
> your petitions." (William Culbertson) I guess that that is what I
> have to trust in in the end.
> Kathy
>
>
> At 08:33 PM 1/25/2006, you wrote:
> >Kathy,
> >
> >I need to soon stop my posts on this lol, I'm well past my promise bad me
> >bad me. hahaha. But I have a question.
> >
> >You wrote...
> >
> >"... Anyway, Greg made a comment that I thought that I'd pass
> >on. He said that God is given glory when a person who has every reason to
> >be mad at Him for what is seen as unfair treatment, loves Him anyway. It
> >put me in mind of Job and how so much happened to him and he never was
> >able to convince his friends that he was innocent, but in the end, God
> >defended him and blessed him abundantly. While the friends never lost
> >anything, they didn't gain anything in the end either. If we could see how
> >God got the glory in that situation, perhaps we could understand better how
> >God also gets the glory in ours."
> >
> >Comment and question. Although I don't understand, I still love and honor
> >god. I feel I have no choice. Now the question. do you and Greg feel you
> >understand how God got, or is getting, the glory with Chris' situation? And
> >does that change your desire for a change in that situation?
> >
> >Brad
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