Oh phew, I'm not losing it then. Honestly, I felt really uncomfortable with
him.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Vinny Samarco" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 9:25 AM
Subject: Re: spiritual abuse
Hi karrie,
I heard one tape of his and I am sure it was not from the holy spirit.
Vinny
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kerri" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 7:55 PM
Subject: Re: spiritual abuse
> realluy? He wanted us to borrow our friends credit cards to pay his
> ministry, he hauled me down a fire tunnel though this was 2 years ago so I
> don't know if he's changed. Got stuck at his fresh fire conference until 1
> in the morning.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sharon Hooley" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 7:47 PM
> Subject: Re: spiritual abuse
>
>
> Except for my own inner struggles, which I have anyway, I didn't have a
> problem with Todd Bently.
>
> Sharon
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kerri" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 6:51 PM
> Subject: Re: spiritual abuse
>
>
> > vinny, I entirely agree save the time I got dragged to and stuck with
Todd
> > Bently, I've not gone to a healing minister since.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Vinny Samarco" <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 4:45 PM
> > Subject: Re: spiritual abuse
> >
> >
> > Virgi,
> > I had the same thing happen to me. Several people of this minister's
> > henchmen came to tell me that this guy could heal me. They dragged me
up
> to
> > the front.
> > When the minister asked me if I believed he could heal me, I said that I
> > didn't think this was the right time.
> > So he turned to the audience and said" With a heart like that, God
can't
> do
> > anything for you.
> > I have lots more stories but won't tel them.
> > After that, I went to the Lord with all this. He said to me that I was
> not
> > to ask for healing or even think of it until He told me to do so.
> > So, as long as I stay away from healing preachers, I am not a target.
> > Vinny
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "virgie underwood" <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 3:20 PM
> > Subject: Re: spiritual abuse
> >
> >
> > > Keri,
> > > I was very young and very shy and scared.
> > > I did tell him that it was not time for me to be healed.
> > > I wanted to say to him that Jesus could heal me without his help, but
I
> > was
> > > afraid of getting a whipping when I got home.
> > > I hope I did not misjudge that preacher.
> > > Virgie At 01:46 PM 7/1/2005, you wrote:
> > >
> > > >Wow Bergie, that preacher soounded awful and he wanted credit,instead
> of
> > > >glorifying the lord. Whenever people ask if I believe in healing my
> > answer
> > > >is yes but I don't require it.
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: "virgie underwood" <[log in to unmask]>
> > > >To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > > >Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 5:52 AM
> > > >Subject: Re: spiritual abuse
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Kerri,
> > > >When I was a young girl, my step mother took me to a preacher who was
> > said
> > > >to have healing power through the Lord.
> > > >First, he put his hand on my head so hard that it hurt.
> > > >He kept pushing on my head until I thought I was going to fall.
> > > >He asked if I had faith in God, and did I think he could heal me.
> > > >I answered yes, I do have faith and I believe that Jesus could heal
me.
> > > >He prayed, it seemed to me quite a long time.
> > > >He asked me can you see now?
> > > >I said yes, but no better than I could before you prayed.
> > > >He told me that it was my fault that I didn't get healed because I
did
> > not
> > > >have the faith.
> > > >I answered, that I did have faith, but that I did not think it was
the
> > time
> > > >that Jesus Christ had chosen for me to see.
> > > >I said that when it is time for me to be healed, Jesus will do it.
> > > >What his comments did to me was to make me doubt my faith.
> > > >It made me think for a while that it was my fault that I was not
> healed.
> > > >I have prayed about this and have discovered that it was not my
fault.
> > > >I really believe that this preacher was looking for credit and glory
> for
> > > >himself.
> > > >I pray that Jesus will forgive me if I am wrong about that.
> > > >I also pray that he will reveal the truth to me about this man if I
am
> > > >wrong.
> > > >I know we are not suppose to judge others, and I try not to do that.
> > > >I do not believe that it was abuse though.
> > > >My step mother wanted to help me because she loved me.
> > > >I can understand how you are feeling and why you feel that way.
> > > >Please share with us any time.
> > > >You will not be chastised here for your feelings and concerns.
> > > >Huggs and blessings.
> > > >Yours in Christ
> > > >Virgie At 01:39 AM 7/1/2005, you wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >Hello all. Is there usch a thing as spiritual abuse? I as this
> because
> > an
> > > > >issue occured when a child that I call abuse and wanted yor opinion
> on
> > it.
> > > > > My parents took me at a very young age to a healer probably in
> > 1979 or
> > > > >early eighties because they thought I was going to die of my bone
> > disease.
> > > > >This man they told them, had the gift of discernment and that God
> > revealed
> > > > >things about the people he prayed for. This man asked me if I had
> > spirits
> > > > >in
> > > > >me like spirits of anger or spirits of doubt. Now mind you I was
> saved
> > by
> > > > >the time I was 5 years old. He then plunked his hand on my head and
> > started
> > > > >chanting leave leave to these spirits. I remember feeling really
> > nervous
> > > > >but
> > > > >said nohting thinking my parents knew best. the man also said maybe
> I'd
> > see
> > > > >soon which never happened. Well time passed, and what happened was
> that
> > > > >people ignored me a lot, I'd get rejected often, never had friends
> and
> > then
> > > > >couldn't find work. Last December, I was wondering why I never
could
> > trust
> > > > >God propperly, as I have a great relationship with my dad, when the
> > above
> > > > >scene was revealed to me. I remembered everything in total detail,
> most
> > of
> > > > >which I'd forgotten. My questions are
> > > > >1. Is this or was this abuse and
> > > > >2. Do you think there is any corelation between my utter inability
to
> > find
> > > > >work and people ignoring me. Now please know, I dislike healing
> > intesnely,
> > > > >it scares me, the holy spirit in fact I find unnerving and never
knew
> > why.
> > > > >What we think happened was that I subconsciously felt that since
this
> > guy
> > > > >asked if I had all these spirits in me, the holy spirit either was
no
> > good
> > > > >or thought ill of me. to top that all off, my parents took me to
> these
> > > > >types of things repeatedly not knowing this isn't good for a child.
I
> > hope
> > > > >you don't think this is utter haracy, was very very nervous to
reveal
> > this
> > > > >to anyone. Be glad for all God is planning for you. Be patient in
> > trouble,
> > > > >and always be prayerful.
> > > > >
> > > > > Romans 12:12, NLT
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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