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Nope.  A tuxedo, sure, but dress, no.  Not into the kinky stuff.  Heh-heh.

Paul
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kerri" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 8:13 PM
Subject: Re: The Power Of Intercessory Prayer


> Hay paul, why don't you put one on and take a picture so we can all judge.
> I'll get all my sighted friends in to look. Kerri.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ariel" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 3:16 PM
> Subject: Re: The Power Of Intercessory Prayer
>
>
> > That's funny about the guy in the wedding dress.  That's the only image
in
> > the Bible I have trouble with, being a bride and not the groom.  Seems
> kinky
> > to me and I don't look good in a veil and heels.  Grin.
> >
> > Oh, and I just found another reason I need a wife and kids, because I
want
> a
> > bunch of stuff I've seen in the Disney catalog and a grown man can't
have
> > that stuff around the house or he looks like a pervert but a husband can
> > order all that stuff for his wife and kids.  Smile.  But it doesn't look
> > like that's on the horizon and I don't think it would have been for that
> guy
> > in the wedding dress either, if his wife had known ahead of time.
Smile.
> >
> > Paul
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Matt" <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 9:10 AM
> > Subject: Re: The Power Of Intercessory Prayer
> >
> >
> > > That makes me think of that tv preacher who used to ask you to make a
> > > monitary vow and if it was for enough money he would send you what I
> would
> > > laughingly tirm a prayer rag.  It was a hankerchief which they said
they
> > had
> > > praied over.  I would laugh about that but then when they would have
one
> > of
> > > those unsolved mistery storeies about how someone had been through
some
> > > terible accident but had had a bible in their back pocket or purse or
> > > something so the accident didn't touch them I was fasenated.
> > > Jimmy Evans, our marage counciler/pastor we have been listening to
tells
> a
> > > story of how he had a tought or saw a vision concerning what he was
> doing
> > > wron in his relationship with his wife.
> > > He said the first part of the vision was of himself in a wedding dress
> as
> > > the bride of jesus and jesus was gently taking the word and dropping
it
> > upon
> > > him to "clean him up.
> > > He said the next vision he saw was a vision of his wife in a wedding
> dress
> > > and himself with a fire hose washing her down trying to clean her up.
> > > I know that sounds dumb but the message was, in our relationships we
> want
> > to
> > > clean people up right now and make them "right!
> > > Where as Jesus is gentle and just applies the word lovingly as long as
> it
> > > takes to clean us up.
> > > He said that Jesus had been washing him in the word for 20 years and
> that
> > he
> > > still wasn't totally perfect.
> > > He said that he began to talk lovingly to his wife and stopped being
> > hateful
> > > and expecting immediate results and things began to change for them.
> > > I am going to stop saying he said but this is all a message we got
from
> > him,
> > > you understand.
> > > You do the right thing and tell the truth and that's all you can do.
> > > The truth has it's own power and over time it can change the
situation.
> > > God is not looking at your clock, he does things in his time and we
> don't
> > > know what that is.
> > > My brother, who I talked off on this list, who was into drugs and not
> > doing
> > > right by his family is doing better these days.  I am not saying he is
> > > perfect, but he and I can comunicate now where as we had stopped
talking
> > for
> > > about 3 years.
> > > I no longer give him money or things and I do not pay his bills for
him
> or
> > > pay for his drug treatment and I also don't run him down.  I am
careful
> to
> > > not get involved a lot in his life yet but am taking my time about it.
> I
> > > still see things about him which I do not like but I understand that
> it's
> > > not my place to fix it.
> > > I have forgiven him for the wrong he has done to me in my mind and
> > repented
> > > for my wrong doing in the situation and other than telling him the
truth
> > > about my feelings as they come up, that's all I intend to do.
> > > You can't make an inner vow and say I'll never do this or that because
> > it's
> > > not in your hands but you can do right and live right and pray for
them.
> > > If the prayer rags work then I can't argue with them but their's
really
> > only
> > > so much you can do and I think that's kind of over board.  If people
> have
> > > time to do that kind of thing and don't expect the rags to work, but
> > rather
> > > god in his own time then their's no harm I guess.
> > > Anyway, enough of my opinion.  hahah
> > > Matt

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