We'll do.  Thanks.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Phil Scovell" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 12:31 PM
Subject: Re: Vicki's hand


> Well, be sure and let us know what you find out.
>
> Phil.
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Vicki" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 9:48 AM
> Subject: Re: Vicki's hand
>
>
>> Well, it's kind of weird. My left hand doesn't always want to close. 
>> It's painful to do so, most of the time. Opening it is a challenge as 
>> well. When I have to use my other hand to open my ring finger, for 
>> example,  it makes this pop noise and sneds a shock wave of pain to 
>> accompany it. My wrist seems to be somewhat unhappy as well. That's in 
>> short why the hand doc visit coming up.
>>
>> Vicki
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Phil Scovell <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Date: Thursday, August 1, 2013 10:54 pm
>> Subject: Vicki's hand
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Vic,
>>>
>>> What's wrong with your hand?  I have asked on the list so other's can 
>>> hear, too.
>>>
>>> Phil.
>>>
>>> How Big Is God?  The Size Of Your Mouth.
>>> www.SafePlaceFellowship.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>   From: Vicki
>>>   To: [log in to unmask]
>>>   Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2013 9:35 PM
>>>   Subject: Re: Doctor's appointment concerning my back today
>>>
>>>
>>>   Phil and everybody,
>>>
>>>   Sorry to hear that your visit was less positive than you had hoped it 
>>> would be.  Like you say, the good thing is that you know what you know. 
>>> I can't imagine having that much pain though and I sure will be praying. 
>>> I get some living with pain myself as I am in therapy for a torn achiles 
>>> Tendon.  The therapy has helped a great deal and I have exercises to do 
>>> at home which I am doing.  In addition, I'm headed to a hand surgeon on 
>>> the 13th and praying no surgery to be necessary, and everything to be 
>>> returned to manageable and even more than what I'm believing for.  Will 
>>> be praying that for you too.
>>>
>>>   Vicki
>>>
>>>
>>>   .
>>>     ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>     From: Phil Scovell
>>>     To: [log in to unmask]
>>>     Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2013 7:13 PM
>>>     Subject: Doctor's appointment concerning my back today
>>>
>>>
>>>     First, happy 137th birthday Colorado.
>>>
>>>     My appointment with the back doctor wasn't all that encouraging 
>>> today.  Basically, the x-rays they took today, plus the physical tests 
>>> they did, revealed my lower back is telescoping, that is, the vertebras 
>>> are all pressing downward.  As they  do, they are pressuring the disks 
>>> which in turn are spreading out, slipping to the sides, and coming in 
>>> contact with nerves which creates the pain in all the various locations. 
>>> The pain changes from the lower back, into my hips, back of my legs, and 
>>> all the way down to my ankles.  Each back episode, creates pain in 
>>> multiple places but not the same places each and every time.  Also, the 
>>> pain level my be from mild to severe.  They do not recommend surgery 
>>> because it would take a number of fusions of the vertebras to repair the 
>>> damage that is ongoing.  They are recommending physical therapy in order 
>>> to learn ways of exercising to the point the vertebras pull back from 
>>> each other further and thus creating less pressure on the disks.  In 
>>> short, learn to live with it.  I was hoping it would be a single set of 
>>> vertebra that could be fused but that isn't the case.  The pain episodes 
>>> will continue but hopefully, with the PT, not as often and the exercises 
>>> can be continued at home and should help keep things in better shape; 
>>> maybe.  At some point, if the PT is helping, I can go back and get shots 
>>> in different places of my lower back to help with pain management, if it 
>>> gets unbearable, that is, but only time will tell.  Learning to live 
>>> with pain is going to be the name of the game.  At least now I know. 
>>> Certainly not as encouraging as I would have hoped but knowing is better 
>>> than not knowing.
>>>
>>>     Phil.
>>>
>>>     Satan Has A God Complex
>>>     www.SafePlaceFellowship.com
>>>
>>> Vic,
>>>
>>> What's wrong with your hand?  I have asked on the list so other's can 
>>> hear, too.
>>>
>>> Phil.
>>>
>>> How Big Is God?  The Size Of Your Mouth.
>>> www.SafePlaceFellowship.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: Vicki
>>> To: ECHURCH-USA@LISTSERV.ICORS..ORG
>>> Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2013 9:35 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Doctor's appointment concerning my back today
>>>
>>>
>>> Phil and everybody,
>>>
>>> Sorry to hear that your visit was less positive than you had hoped it 
>>> would be.  Like you say, the good thing is that you know what you know. 
>>> I can't imagine having that much pain though and I sure will be praying. 
>>> I get some living with pain myself as I am in therapy for a torn achiles 
>>> Tendon.  The therapy has helped a great deal and I have exercises to do 
>>> at home which I am doing.  In addition, I'm headed to a hand surgeon on 
>>> the 13th and praying no surgery to be necessary, and everything to be 
>>> returned to manageable and even more than what I'm believing for.  Will 
>>> be praying that for you too.
>>>
>>> Vicki
>>>
>>>
>>> .
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: Phil Scovell
>>> To: ECHURCH-USA@LISTSERV.ICORS..ORG
>>> Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2013 7:13 PM
>>> Subject: Doctor's appointment concerning my back today
>>>
>>>
>>> First, happy 137th birthday Colorado.
>>>
>>> My appointment with the back doctor wasn't all that encouraging today. 
>>> Basically, the x-rays they took today, plus the physical tests they did, 
>>> revealed my lower back is telescoping, that is, the vertebras are all 
>>> pressing downward.  As they  do, they are pressuring the disks which in 
>>> turn are spreading out, slipping to the sides, and coming in contact 
>>> with nerves which creates the pain in all the various locations.  The 
>>> pain changes from the lower back, into my hips, back of my legs, and all 
>>> the way down to my ankles.  Each back episode, creates pain in multiple 
>>> places but not the same places each and every time.  Also, the pain 
>>> level my be from mild to severe.  They do not recommend surgery because 
>>> it would take a number of fusions of the vertebras to repair the damage 
>>> that is ongoing.  They are recommending physical therapy in order to 
>>> learn ways of exercising to the point the vertebras pull back from each 
>>> other further and thus creating less pressure on the disks.  In short, 
>>> learn to live with it.  I was hoping it would be a single set of 
>>> vertebra that could be fused but that isn't the case.  The pain episodes 
>>> will continue but hopefully, with the PT, not as often and the exercises 
>>> can be continued at home and should help keep things in better shape; 
>>> maybe.  At some point, if the PT is helping, I can go back and get shots 
>>> in different places of my lower back to help with pain management, if it 
>>> gets unbearable, that is, but only time will tell.  Learning to live 
>>> with pain is going to be the name of the game.  At least now I know. 
>>> Certainly not as encouraging as I would have hoped but knowing is better 
>>> than not knowing.
>>>
>>> Phil.
>>>
>>> Satan Has A God Complex
>>> www.SafePlaceFellowship.com
>>
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