Thanks loving Pat.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pat Ferguson" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 10:34 AM
Subject: Re: Vicki's hand


> Dear Vicki,
> 
> Oh my, not good. I'm praying for you.
> 
> Lord, please heal Vicki's hand and give her peace and keep her free 
> from worry, and Lord, please heal her completely. Thank you, Jesus 
> for what you are doing in Vicki's life, Amen.
> 
> Love and Blessings,
> 
> Pat Ferguson
> 
> 
> At 10:48 AM 8/2/2013, you wrote:
>>Well, it's kind of weird. My left hand doesn't always want to 
>>close.  It's painful to do so, most of the time. Opening it is a 
>>challenge as well. When I have to use my other hand to open my ring 
>>finger, for example,  it makes this pop noise and sneds a shock wave 
>>of pain to accompany it. My wrist seems to be somewhat unhappy as 
>>well. That's in short why the hand doc visit coming up.
>>
>>Vicki
>>
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: Phil Scovell <[log in to unmask]>
>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>Date: Thursday, August 1, 2013 10:54 pm
>>Subject: Vicki's hand
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > Vic,
>> >
>> > What's wrong with your hand?  I have asked on the list so other's 
>> can hear, too.
>> >
>> > Phil.
>> >
>> > How Big Is God?  The Size Of Your Mouth.
>> > www.SafePlaceFellowship.com
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >   ----- Original Message -----
>> >   From: Vicki
>> >   To: [log in to unmask]
>> >   Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2013 9:35 PM
>> >   Subject: Re: Doctor's appointment concerning my back today
>> >
>> >
>> >   Phil and everybody,
>> >
>> >   Sorry to hear that your visit was less positive than you had 
>> hoped it would be.  Like you say, the good thing is that you know 
>> what you know.  I can't imagine having that much pain though and I 
>> sure will be praying.  I get some living with pain myself as I am 
>> in therapy for a torn achiles Tendon.  The therapy has helped a 
>> great deal and I have exercises to do at home which I am doing.  In 
>> addition, I'm headed to a hand surgeon on the 13th and praying no 
>> surgery to be necessary, and everything to be returned to 
>> manageable and even more than what I'm believing for.  Will be 
>> praying that for you too.
>> >
>> >   Vicki
>> >
>> >
>> >   .
>> >     ----- Original Message -----
>> >     From: Phil Scovell
>> >     To: [log in to unmask]
>> >     Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2013 7:13 PM
>> >     Subject: Doctor's appointment concerning my back today
>> >
>> >
>> >     First, happy 137th birthday Colorado.
>> >
>> >     My appointment with the back doctor wasn't all that 
>> encouraging today.  Basically, the x-rays they took today, plus the 
>> physical tests they did, revealed my lower back is telescoping, 
>> that is, the vertebras are all pressing downward.  As they  do, 
>> they are pressuring the disks which in turn are spreading out, 
>> slipping to the sides, and coming in contact with nerves which 
>> creates the pain in all the various locations.  The pain changes 
>> from the lower back, into my hips, back of my legs, and all the way 
>> down to my ankles.  Each back episode, creates pain in multiple 
>> places but not the same places each and every time.  Also, the pain 
>> level my be from mild to severe.  They do not recommend surgery 
>> because it would take a number of fusions of the vertebras to 
>> repair the damage that is ongoing.  They are recommending physical 
>> therapy in order to learn ways of exercising to the point the 
>> vertebras pull back from each other further and thus creating less 
>> pressure on the disks.  In short, learn to live with it.  I was 
>> hoping it would be a single set of vertebra that could be fused but 
>> that isn't the case.  The pain episodes will continue but 
>> hopefully, with the PT, not as often and the exercises can be 
>> continued at home and should help keep things in better shape; 
>> maybe.  At some point, if the PT is helping, I can go back and get 
>> shots in different places of my lower back to help with pain 
>> management, if it gets unbearable, that is, but only time will 
>> tell.  Learning to live with pain is going to be the name of the 
>> game.  At least now I know.  Certainly not as encouraging as I 
>> would have hoped but knowing is better than not knowing.
>> >
>> >     Phil.
>> >
>> >     Satan Has A God Complex
>> >     www.SafePlaceFellowship.com
>> >
>> > Vic,
>> >
>> > What's wrong with your hand?  I have asked on the list so other's 
>> can hear, too.
>> >
>> > Phil.
>> >
>> > How Big Is God?  The Size Of Your Mouth.
>> > www.SafePlaceFellowship.com
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: Vicki
>> > To: ECHURCH-USA@LISTSERV.ICORS..ORG
>> > Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2013 9:35 PM
>> > Subject: Re: Doctor's appointment concerning my back today
>> >
>> >
>> > Phil and everybody,
>> >
>> > Sorry to hear that your visit was less positive than you had 
>> hoped it would be.  Like you say, the good thing is that you know 
>> what you know.  I can't imagine having that much pain though and I 
>> sure will be praying.  I get some living with pain myself as I am 
>> in therapy for a torn achiles Tendon.  The therapy has helped a 
>> great deal and I have exercises to do at home which I am doing.  In 
>> addition, I'm headed to a hand surgeon on the 13th and praying no 
>> surgery to be necessary, and everything to be returned to 
>> manageable and even more than what I'm believing for.  Will be 
>> praying that for you too.
>> >
>> > Vicki
>> >
>> >
>> > .
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: Phil Scovell
>> > To: ECHURCH-USA@LISTSERV.ICORS..ORG
>> > Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2013 7:13 PM
>> > Subject: Doctor's appointment concerning my back today
>> >
>> >
>> > First, happy 137th birthday Colorado.
>> >
>> > My appointment with the back doctor wasn't all that encouraging 
>> today.  Basically, the x-rays they took today, plus the physical 
>> tests they did, revealed my lower back is telescoping, that is, the 
>> vertebras are all pressing downward.  As they  do, they are 
>> pressuring the disks which in turn are spreading out, slipping to 
>> the sides, and coming in contact with nerves which creates the pain 
>> in all the various locations.  The pain changes from the lower 
>> back, into my hips, back of my legs, and all the way down to my 
>> ankles.  Each back episode, creates pain in multiple places but not 
>> the same places each and every time.  Also, the pain level my be 
>> from mild to severe.  They do not recommend surgery because it 
>> would take a number of fusions of the vertebras to repair the 
>> damage that is ongoing.  They are recommending physical therapy in 
>> order to learn ways of exercising to the point the vertebras pull 
>> back from each other further and thus creating less pressure on the 
>> disks.  In short, learn to live with it.  I was hoping it would be 
>> a single set of vertebra that could be fused but that isn't the 
>> case.  The pain episodes will continue but hopefully, with the PT, 
>> not as often and the exercises can be continued at home and should 
>> help keep things in better shape; maybe.  At some point, if the PT 
>> is helping, I can go back and get shots in different places of my 
>> lower back to help with pain management, if it gets unbearable, 
>> that is, but only time will tell.  Learning to live with pain is 
>> going to be the name of the game.  At least now I know.  Certainly 
>> not as encouraging as I would have hoped but knowing is better than 
>> not knowing.
>> >
>> > Phil.
>> >
>> > Satan Has A God Complex
>> > www.SafePlaceFellowship.com
>