Vicki, I have forgotten.  What do you do for work?

earlier, Vicki, wrote:
>We'll do.  Thanks.
>
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Scovell" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 12:31 PM
>Subject: Re: Vicki's hand
>
>
>>Well, be sure and let us know what you find out.
>>
>>Phil.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Vicki" <[log in to unmask]>
>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 9:48 AM
>>Subject: Re: Vicki's hand
>>
>>
>>>Well, it's kind of weird. My left hand doesn't always want to 
>>>close. It's painful to do so, most of the time. Opening it is a 
>>>challenge as well. When I have to use my other hand to open my 
>>>ring finger, for example,  it makes this pop noise and sneds a 
>>>shock wave of pain to accompany it. My wrist seems to be somewhat 
>>>unhappy as well. That's in short why the hand doc visit coming up.
>>>
>>>Vicki
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: Phil Scovell <[log in to unmask]>
>>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>>Date: Thursday, August 1, 2013 10:54 pm
>>>Subject: Vicki's hand
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Vic,
>>>>
>>>>What's wrong with your hand?  I have asked on the list so other's 
>>>>can hear, too.
>>>>
>>>>Phil.
>>>>
>>>>How Big Is God?  The Size Of Your Mouth.
>>>>www.SafePlaceFellowship.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   ----- Original Message -----   From: Vicki
>>>>   To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>   Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2013 9:35 PM
>>>>   Subject: Re: Doctor's appointment concerning my back today
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   Phil and everybody,
>>>>
>>>>   Sorry to hear that your visit was less positive than you had 
>>>> hoped it would be.  Like you say, the good thing is that you 
>>>> know what you know. I can't imagine having that much pain though 
>>>> and I sure will be praying. I get some living with pain myself 
>>>> as I am in therapy for a torn achiles Tendon.  The therapy has 
>>>> helped a great deal and I have exercises to do at home which I 
>>>> am doing.  In addition, I'm headed to a hand surgeon on the 13th 
>>>> and praying no surgery to be necessary, and everything to be 
>>>> returned to manageable and even more than what I'm believing 
>>>> for.  Will be praying that for you too.
>>>>
>>>>   Vicki
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   .
>>>>     ----- Original Message -----     From: Phil Scovell
>>>>     To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>     Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2013 7:13 PM
>>>>     Subject: Doctor's appointment concerning my back today
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     First, happy 137th birthday Colorado.
>>>>
>>>>     My appointment with the back doctor wasn't all that 
>>>> encouraging today.  Basically, the x-rays they took today, plus 
>>>> the physical tests they did, revealed my lower back is 
>>>> telescoping, that is, the vertebras are all pressing 
>>>> downward.  As they  do, they are pressuring the disks which in 
>>>> turn are spreading out, slipping to the sides, and coming in 
>>>> contact with nerves which creates the pain in all the various 
>>>> locations. The pain changes from the lower back, into my hips, 
>>>> back of my legs, and all the way down to my ankles.  Each back 
>>>> episode, creates pain in multiple places but not the same places 
>>>> each and every time.  Also, the pain level my be from mild to 
>>>> severe.  They do not recommend surgery because it would take a 
>>>> number of fusions of the vertebras to repair the damage that is 
>>>> ongoing.  They are recommending physical therapy in order to 
>>>> learn ways of exercising to the point the vertebras pull back 
>>>> from each other further and thus creating less pressure on the 
>>>> disks.  In short, learn to live with it.  I was hoping it would 
>>>> be a single set of vertebra that could be fused but that isn't 
>>>> the case.  The pain episodes will continue but hopefully, with 
>>>> the PT, not as often and the exercises can be continued at home 
>>>> and should help keep things in better shape; maybe.  At some 
>>>> point, if the PT is helping, I can go back and get shots in 
>>>> different places of my lower back to help with pain management, 
>>>> if it gets unbearable, that is, but only time will 
>>>> tell.  Learning to live with pain is going to be the name of the 
>>>> game.  At least now I know. Certainly not as encouraging as I 
>>>> would have hoped but knowing is better than not knowing.
>>>>
>>>>     Phil.
>>>>
>>>>     Satan Has A God Complex
>>>>     www.SafePlaceFellowship.com
>>>>
>>>>Vic,
>>>>
>>>>What's wrong with your hand?  I have asked on the list so other's 
>>>>can hear, too.
>>>>
>>>>Phil.
>>>>
>>>>How Big Is God?  The Size Of Your Mouth.
>>>>www.SafePlaceFellowship.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: Vicki
>>>>To: ECHURCH-USA@LISTSERV.ICORS..ORG
>>>>Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2013 9:35 PM
>>>>Subject: Re: Doctor's appointment concerning my back today
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Phil and everybody,
>>>>
>>>>Sorry to hear that your visit was less positive than you had 
>>>>hoped it would be.  Like you say, the good thing is that you know 
>>>>what you know. I can't imagine having that much pain though and I 
>>>>sure will be praying. I get some living with pain myself as I am 
>>>>in therapy for a torn achiles Tendon.  The therapy has helped a 
>>>>great deal and I have exercises to do at home which I am 
>>>>doing.  In addition, I'm headed to a hand surgeon on the 13th and 
>>>>praying no surgery to be necessary, and everything to be returned 
>>>>to manageable and even more than what I'm believing for.  Will be 
>>>>praying that for you too.
>>>>
>>>>Vicki
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>.
>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: Phil Scovell
>>>>To: ECHURCH-USA@LISTSERV.ICORS..ORG
>>>>Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2013 7:13 PM
>>>>Subject: Doctor's appointment concerning my back today
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>First, happy 137th birthday Colorado.
>>>>
>>>>My appointment with the back doctor wasn't all that encouraging 
>>>>today. Basically, the x-rays they took today, plus the physical 
>>>>tests they did, revealed my lower back is telescoping, that is, 
>>>>the vertebras are all pressing downward.  As they  do, they are 
>>>>pressuring the disks which in turn are spreading out, slipping to 
>>>>the sides, and coming in contact with nerves which creates the 
>>>>pain in all the various locations.  The pain changes from the 
>>>>lower back, into my hips, back of my legs, and all the way down 
>>>>to my ankles.  Each back episode, creates pain in multiple places 
>>>>but not the same places each and every time.  Also, the pain 
>>>>level my be from mild to severe.  They do not recommend surgery 
>>>>because it would take a number of fusions of the vertebras to 
>>>>repair the damage that is ongoing.  They are recommending 
>>>>physical therapy in order to learn ways of exercising to the 
>>>>point the vertebras pull back from each other further and thus 
>>>>creating less pressure on the disks.  In short, learn to live 
>>>>with it.  I was hoping it would be a single set of vertebra that 
>>>>could be fused but that isn't the case.  The pain episodes will 
>>>>continue but hopefully, with the PT, not as often and the 
>>>>exercises can be continued at home and should help keep things in 
>>>>better shape; maybe.  At some point, if the PT is helping, I can 
>>>>go back and get shots in different places of my lower back to 
>>>>help with pain management, if it gets unbearable, that is, but 
>>>>only time will tell.  Learning to live with pain is going to be 
>>>>the name of the game.  At least now I know. Certainly not as 
>>>>encouraging as I would have hoped but knowing is better than not knowing.
>>>>
>>>>Phil.
>>>>
>>>>Satan Has A God Complex
>>>>www.SafePlaceFellowship.com
>
>John