AS with bestest friends, if they ask me, "Can I ask you something?", 
I will tell them, "You may ask." If this cconversation is in earnest, 
they may ask me anything - as long as they are willing and able to 
live with my answer, which may be not telling them something or not 
as much as they want to. In an open honest relationship, any question 
is permissable with no taboos, but it may not always get answered or 
not when it is asked or not in the way it is expected.

I did not really understand Dr. Larry to be telling us we need to get 
a diploma in relating to God before we can talk to him. My 
Understanding is that God just is as is our relationship to him once 
we realize our need and turn to him. what we need is the trust of a 
child that when God does it, it is going to be ok. I lack this kind 
of faith a lot. And the reason is relational because my father was 
not physically abusive, he just was not. In retrospect and after 
having seen and felt some of that sort of trust, my dad was hurt 
himself when his first wife divorced him and took my half-brother who 
my dad truly loved. My earth father was not a bad guy. He just was. 
And in relationship to my mother and me he was not.

It is when I learn to trust God as a father or rather like a papa or 
a Papito - then I can ask whatever I want and be happy with the 
answer because I am home with god and know him with the middle and 
from the middle like I know papito and then the getting becomes 
unimportant because the trust is important and not a single object I 
may have asked for.

Now that's middle stuff and "beyond words" stuff and I may have said 
too much but I really have appreciated the subject on praer which 
only in more recent years has become important to me, and the lord 
knew, papa knew, because he is and I am and he knows me and he makes 
it right and he provides the prayer papas and and also the papa 
prayers he wants to hear .

In his loving grip!

Doris


At 06:54 AM 8/6/2013 -0400, you wrote:
>So I do agree, we do then name  the name of Jesus and indeed claim 
>the free gift of salvation; and pray for health of 
>course,  financial blessing, surely we want enough to cover 
>our  basic needs. It's just those people  who stubbornly say that if 
>we believe anything, if we have faith and ask, we'll have it. I 
>suppose it all stems from thos people who prayed for restoration of 
>my sight when I was a little girl. I remember they quoted verses 
>about moving mountains, having faith as small as a mustard  seed, 
>asking anything in His name and receiving it; then when they prayed 
>asking and believing and my sight wasn't immediately restored, they 
>sought reasons. The reason they found was unbbelief, not theirs of 
>course, but mine. They would question me asking if I didn't believe 
>in God. Of course I did, as much as a little girl of five could. God 
>made the roses I loved, the birds that sang in the trees, the sun 
>that warmed my face. He was the one I talked to when my Mom and Dad 
>would fight in the night yelling and throwing dishes, of course I 
>believed. But they insisted, the words in their Bible said, and they 
>were much older, wiser than I. I wondered why God couldn't answer 
>their prayer diffferently, maybe He did answer, not in the way they wanted.
>So, my problem with "name-it and claim-it" really comes from long 
>ago hurt which I should really pray about.
>I'd love to read your further thoughts though; I always enjoy 
>reading what you have to say; it is always thought provoking In 
>short then, name-it claim-it isn't all wrong, I just don't 
>especially appreciate how some choose to teach it.
>
>Blessings!
>
>Rhonda .