Phil,
    Thanks also for the update on Gretchen.  Glad to hear she's also
recieving healing in her life.  The devil sure does lie all the time.

Amy
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From: "Phil Scovell" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2005 5:11 PM
Subject: Gretchen Followup


>      This week, Gretchen made an appointment to pray with me.  the
> first time is often difficult because few Christians in the Body of
> Christ have ever truly heard the voice of the Lord.  Oh, they hear
> voices all right but they are often condescending, accusatory,
> demeaning, belittling, and couched in inflammatory terminology which
> creates doubt, fear, guilt, shame, or circular reasoning that always
> leads no where.
>
>      After a few minutes, we isolated an emotion which allowed us to
> focus our prayers.  It was the emotion of shame.  As we prayed
> together about this shame, two memories suddenly came to mind.  One
> was when she was at the Christian school, wearing a pink dress, and in
> kindergarten.  The second memory was when she was 15 and had run away
> from home.  She was working at a Burger King, where we eventually
> found her three months later, and she was pregnant with her first
> child.  That's little Everett who is our oldest grandson.  He's almost
> 10 years old now.
>
>      I started with the kindergarten memory.  The shame was there as a
> result of a simple art project the class was working on.  Gretchen
> said she apparently was doing something wrong because a little boy
> next to her tried innocently to show her what was wrong.  suddenly,
> and without warning, she felt exposed, embarrassed, and ashamed.  I
> focused our prayer on the shame and these other feelings.  She said,
> "I'm not as good as the rest of the class."  I recognized this as a
> lie from the Enemy, of course, right away but she did not; to her it
> felt genuine.
>
>      As the Lord began to speak to her about different areas, she
> said, "I feel like I am making all of this up."  This, too, is common
> because, even as Born Again Believers, we really aren't used to
> hearing the voice of the Lord speaking truth to us as much as we are
> the Enemy's.
>
>      As 45 minutes passed, the Lord began to speak His truth which in
> turn brought healing into the memory.  Yes, there was a lying spirit
> who had implanted the lies about herself into her little 5 year old
> mind.  No, he didn't speak; he didn't need to.  The lies she believed
> were evident.  Do you think the Enemy plays fair?  Of course not.  He
> often preys on children who are unable to detect they are under
> demonic influence.  The Lord did, on the other hand, show Gretchen
> where he was, that is, the lying spirit in the memory, before he was
> sent away, so she would understand she had not made these feelings up
> on her own.
>
>      When the first memory was healed, we went to the second one.  It
> was already healed and the shame in that second memory was already
> gone.  This, too, is quite common when a lie is thematic, or
> repetitive, in nature.  Sometimes a thematic lie is embedded hundreds
> of times over their life time.
>
>      Gretchen felt, at first, that she could not be healed.  Why?  she
> had too many things in her life for the Holy Spirit to address.  You
> can see the lie in that reasoning.  Regardless, if she continues
> meeting with the Lord in prayer, He will continue his healing process
> in her life.
>
>      Finally, after everything seemed renewed in her memory, she said
> the Lord walked up to a seat and sat down next to her.  He had an art
> project, too, which she saw Him working on.  He looked over and said
> to her, "I am going to fix your art project so it is right.  If I can
> fix your art project for you, I can fix the rest of your life as
> well."
>
>      Thanks for praying for Gretchen.
>
> Phil.
>
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