Eccl9:5-6,  For the living know that they shall die.  But the dead know nothing.  And they have no more reward.  For the memory of them is forgotten.
6.  Also their love, their hatred, and thyir envy have now perished.  Nevermore will they have a share in anything done under the sun.

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Christ is either Lord of all or he is not Lord at all.
Karen Carter '74



> Thanks Ned for the scripture reference.
>
>
> Brad
>
>
> on 03:14 PM 7/30/2005, Ned Benton said:
> Hi Angel,
> Yes, the bible says we are saints, a word meaning the sanctified ones.
> However, we might ask the saints (christians) to pray for us but not to
> us.
> There is nowhere in the Bible that it speaks at all about praying to
> saints
> who are gone on from this life. In 1 Tim. 2/5 we read,
>
> 1 Timothy 2
> Instructions on Worship
>      1I urge, then, first of all, that requests, prayers, intercession and
> thanksgiving
> be made for everyone- 2
> for kings and all those in authority, that we may live peaceful and quiet
> lives in
> all godliness and holiness.
> 3
> This is good, and pleases God our Savior,
> 4who wants all men to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth. 5
> For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ
> Jesus,
>
> Jesus is the only one that the Bible authorizes us to pray to or through.
> He is the only avenue we have to God.  In Rom 8:26/27 it tells us, about
> praying,
>
>      26
> In the same way, the Spirit helps us in our weakness. We do not know what
> we
> ought
> to pray for, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us with groans that
> words
> cannot
> express.
> 27
> And he who searches our hearts knows the mind of the Spirit, because the
> Spirit intercedes
> for the saints in accordance with God's will.
> MSo, God wants us to pray through Jesus and has given us His Spirit to
> interceede for us because we don't always know just how to pray.
>
> Hope this helps, Angel, and thanks for the question.
>
> Ned