If they really care to know they can ask. We can not judge by appearances
because appearances are misleading. If two women live together do we assume
they are lesbians? If two men live together do we assume they are gay? Do
we say Oh dear we shouldn't live together because a gay couple may continue
with there horrible practices. The Amish still practice bundling because it
is cold and they don't want to drive home late on their horses. do we
assume they are fornicating? It is true some men who live with men are gay
but not all and it is wrong to make such assumptions and some Amish I am
sure fornicate but not all do I am sure. ----- Original Message -----
From: "Karen Carter" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 2:28 PM
Subject: Re: question, problem, and prayer request.
> It is also the appearance of fornacation. You and your partner know you
are not sinning but what about the people around you. They don't so them
assume that you are doing just that.
>
> --
> Christ is either Lord of all or he is not Lord at all.
> Karen Carter '74
>
>
>
> > I agree with you. It seems Christians today think the devil is bound to
win
> > in every situation. I think if you do live together without falling in
to
> > sin it will prove to you more than anything else your love for each
other is
> > not based on mere physical attraction but instead is a heavenly godly
love
> > which will last through the years. It will also serve as a testament of
> > your commitment to god's precepts. I will pray that you be constant in
this
> > commitment which I know you will and that your marriage will last as
long as
> > the firm foundation on which it will be built which is Christ.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jenifer Barr" <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 9:36 PM
> > Subject: Re: question, problem, and prayer request.
> >
> >
> > > what is a vow between god and two people? If we have vowed before God
and
> > > each other that sex will not occur until marriage, then why is living
> > > together a sin? We are not intimate until then. I understand about
> > > temptation but that's when you pray every day that God keeps you
strong.
> > >
> > > Our situation is unique and it's not like we haven't prayed about it.
I
> > > guess I'm just hurt because everyone seems to think that just because
> > we're
> > > going to be living together the devel is going to win. God is the
only
> > one
> > > in control. Is this our ideal situation? no. I've been through too
much
> > > in the past to know what temptation can do to someone... and i... or
yet
> > > we... will not break our vow before god.
> > >
> > > Jenifer Barr.
> > > When the trumpet blows... I'm outta here!
> > > AIM: jenibear1998
> > > msn
> > > [log in to unmask]
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Kathy Du Bois" <[log in to unmask]>
> > > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 2:06 PM
> > > Subject: Re: question, problem, and prayer request.
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hey Jen,
> > > > First of all, I'm sorry that you are dealing with an
inflexible
> > > > pastor. I don't see what difference it makes to him whether the
> > cerimony
> > > > is big or small, before or after the civil cerimony. I suppose that
he
> > is
> > > > standing on something for theological reasons, but I have no clue
what
> > > > that
> > > > would be. It seems to me that you are left with three options:
switch
> > > > pastors, move the wedding up, or leave things as they are and trust
God
> > > > for a miracle. As a child of God, the one option that you don't
have,
> > is
> > > > to move in together. If you begin your marriage by compromising
your
> > > > principles on something that is truly small in the grand scheme of
> > > > things,
> > > > how can you be trusted for the bigger ones. Believe me, the one
thing
> > > > that
> > > > I am learning about our heavenly Father is that he is extremely
creative
> > > > in
> > > > the solution department. We often miss it because we get so stuck
in
> > > > thinking that the only solutions available to us are the ones that
we
> > can
> > > > see and we shut the door on His creativity. This is a test. This
is
> > only
> > > > a test. The question is, will you trust Him and wait for His
solution
> > and
> > > > timing or will you continue to see with earthly eyes only what is
> > > > possible. Good luck on your adventure. He is faithful. Your task
is
> > to
> > > > remain patient and at peace! GRIN!
> > > > Kathy
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > At 05:17 PM 7/18/2005, you wrote:
> > > >>Hi all. As most of you know, i am getting married in november. I
found
> > > >>out
> > > >>today from work that they want me to transfer in the beginning of
> > august.
> > > >>I
> > > >>can't tell them i won't transfer then because it is the end of our
> > fiscal
> > > >>year august 31 and i could forfit my job. Problem is though, that
my
> > > >>fiancee and I decided that to save money... if i had to move in
> > september
> > > >>or
> > > >>october we would just live together until the wedding. We both
don't
> > > >>really
> > > >>like the idea but it's like we have no choice. I don't know what to
do.
> > > >>I'm so confused... i don't know what is right and wrong. Both my
> > fiancee
> > > >>and I are born-again Christians, we will in no way have sex before
> > > >>marriage
> > > >>so if we made/make that pledge to god is living together before
marriage
> > a
> > > >>sin? Is it wrong? And what do i do if it is? I know of other
> > christian
> > > >>couples who have lived together before marriage. I am just so
scattered
> > > >>right now. Please pray for clarity for me? And above all, pray
Gods
> > will
> > > >>be done.
> > > >>I love you all.
> > > >>Jenifer Barr.
> > > >>When the trumpet blows... I'm outta here!
> > > >>AIM: jenibear1998
> > > >>msn
> > > >>[log in to unmask]
> > > >
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