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Oops. Forgot to delete my never mind on last message.  Too much in a hurry. 
Oh well.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Vicki" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 3:53 PM
Subject: Re: Vicki's hand


> If I hadn't known you I might not have exactly laughed. .  No earth quake 
> came your way, so think there isn't anything to worry about. Lol!  Yeah, I 
> hear it isn't bad money.  Of course if you stop to take in to account all 
> the risks, then maybe the money's actually not worth anything at all.
>
>  Never mind
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Phil Scovell" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 3:04 PM
> Subject: Re: Vicki's hand
>
>
>>I never would have said it if I didn't know you personally.  I wasn't for 
>>sure if you'd throw something at me or if you would laugh.  I was hoping 
>>you'd think it was funny.  I hear it pays well, though.  I heard an 
>>interview with a lady who does her house keeping as she does her work on 
>>the cordless phone, if you get my meaning, and makes like a hundred 
>>thousand a year.  I bet if I have my son make a big sign, Blind Donations, 
>>and stand out in front of my house, or go down to the corner gas station 
>>where the stop light is, I could make that much a year.  Especially now 
>>with my beard. I look homeless, or is it homely?  I forget now.  I'd use a 
>>5 gallon bucket to hold all the money I got each day.
>>
>> Phil.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Vicki" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 2:48 PM
>> Subject: Re: Vicki's hand
>>
>>
>>> Phil. You are bad to the bone I say.  Bad to the bone. I'm bad to the 
>>> phone, not bad to the bone. And that's cause I'm not at work today. Us 
>>> feds get a less than good wrap these days. (smiles)
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Phil Scovell <[log in to unmask]>
>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>> Date: Friday, August 2, 2013 2:40 pm
>>> Subject: Re: Vicki's hand
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Vicki,
>>>>
>>>> Are you doing phone sex now?  hahahahahahahahahah.
>>>>
>>>> Phil.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Vicki" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 1:37 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: Vicki's hand
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > Customer  Service type stuff with phones and computer.
>>>> >
>>>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> > From: "john schwery" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> > Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 1:27 PM
>>>> > Subject: Re: Vicki's hand
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >> Vicki, I have forgotten.  What do you do for work?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> earlier, Vicki, wrote:
>>>> >>>We'll do.  Thanks.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Scovell"
>>>> >>><[log in to unmask]>
>>>> >>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> >>>Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 12:31 PM
>>>> >>>Subject: Re: Vicki's hand
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>>Well, be sure and let us know what you find out.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>Phil.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Vicki" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> >>>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> >>>>Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 9:48 AM
>>>> >>>>Subject: Re: Vicki's hand
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>>Well, it's kind of weird. My left hand doesn't always want to 
>>>> >>>>>close.
>>>> >>>>>It's painful to do so, most of the time. Opening it is a challenge 
>>>> >>>>>as
>>>> >>>>>well. When I have to use my other hand to open my ring finger, for
>>>> >>>>>example,  it makes this pop noise and sneds a shock wave of pain 
>>>> >>>>>to
>>>> >>>>>accompany it. My wrist seems to be somewhat unhappy as well. 
>>>> >>>>>That's in
>>>> >>>>>short why the hand doc visit coming up.
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>Vicki
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>> >>>>>From: Phil Scovell <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> >>>>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>>> >>>>>Date: Thursday, August 1, 2013 10:54 pm
>>>> >>>>>Subject: Vicki's hand
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>Vic,
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>What's wrong with your hand?  I have asked on the list so other's 
>>>> >>>>>>can
>>>> >>>>>>hear, too.
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>Phil.
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>How Big Is God?  The Size Of Your Mouth.
>>>> >>>>>>www.SafePlaceFellowship.com
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>   ----- Original Message -----   From: Vicki
>>>> >>>>>>   To: [log in to unmask]
>>>> >>>>>>   Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2013 9:35 PM
>>>> >>>>>>   Subject: Re: Doctor's appointment concerning my back today
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>   Phil and everybody,
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>   Sorry to hear that your visit was less positive than you had 
>>>> >>>>>> hoped
>>>> >>>>>> it would be.  Like you say, the good thing is that you know what 
>>>> >>>>>> you
>>>> >>>>>> know. I can't imagine having that much pain though and I sure 
>>>> >>>>>> will be
>>>> >>>>>> praying. I get some living with pain myself as I am in therapy 
>>>> >>>>>> for a
>>>> >>>>>> torn achiles Tendon.  The therapy has helped a great deal and I 
>>>> >>>>>> have
>>>> >>>>>> exercises to do at home which I am doing.  In addition, I'm 
>>>> >>>>>> headed to
>>>> >>>>>> a hand surgeon on the 13th and praying no surgery to be 
>>>> >>>>>> necessary,
>>>> >>>>>> and everything to be returned to manageable and even more than 
>>>> >>>>>> what
>>>> >>>>>> I'm believing for.  Will be praying that for you too.
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>   Vicki
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>   .
>>>> >>>>>>     ----- Original Message -----     From: Phil Scovell
>>>> >>>>>>     To: [log in to unmask]
>>>> >>>>>>     Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2013 7:13 PM
>>>> >>>>>>     Subject: Doctor's appointment concerning my back today
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>     First, happy 137th birthday Colorado.
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>     My appointment with the back doctor wasn't all that 
>>>> >>>>>> encouraging
>>>> >>>>>> today.  Basically, the x-rays they took today, plus the physical
>>>> >>>>>> tests they did, revealed my lower back is telescoping, that is, 
>>>> >>>>>> the
>>>> >>>>>> vertebras are all pressing downward.  As they  do, they are
>>>> >>>>>> pressuring the disks which in turn are spreading out, slipping 
>>>> >>>>>> to the
>>>> >>>>>> sides, and coming in contact with nerves which creates the pain 
>>>> >>>>>> in
>>>> >>>>>> all the various locations. The pain changes from the lower back, 
>>>> >>>>>> into
>>>> >>>>>> my hips, back of my legs, and all the way down to my ankles. 
>>>> >>>>>> Each
>>>> >>>>>> back episode, creates pain in multiple places but not the same 
>>>> >>>>>> places
>>>> >>>>>> each and every time.  Also, the pain level my be from mild to 
>>>> >>>>>> severe.
>>>> >>>>>> They do not recommend surgery because it would take a number of
>>>> >>>>>> fusions of the vertebras to repair the damage that is ongoing. 
>>>> >>>>>> They
>>>> >>>>>> are recommending physical therapy in order to learn ways of
>>>> >>>>>> exercising to the point the vertebras pull back from each other
>>>> >>>>>> further and thus creating less pressure on the disks.  In short,
>>>> >>>>>> learn to live with it. I was hoping it would be a single set of
>>>> >>>>>> vertebra that could be fused but that isn't the case.  The pain
>>>> >>>>>> episodes will continue but hopefully, with the PT, not as often 
>>>> >>>>>> and
>>>> >>>>>> the exercises can be continued at home and should help keep 
>>>> >>>>>> things in
>>>> >>>>>> better shape; maybe. At some point, if the PT is helping, I can 
>>>> >>>>>> go
>>>> >>>>>> back and get shots in different places of my lower back to help 
>>>> >>>>>> with
>>>> >>>>>> pain management, if it gets unbearable, that is, but only time 
>>>> >>>>>> will
>>>> >>>>>> tell.  Learning to live with pain is going to be the name of the
>>>> >>>>>> game.  At least now I know. Certainly not as encouraging as I 
>>>> >>>>>> would
>>>> >>>>>> have hoped but knowing is better than not knowing.
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>     Phil.
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>     Satan Has A God Complex
>>>> >>>>>>     www.SafePlaceFellowship.com
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>Vic,
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>What's wrong with your hand?  I have asked on the list so other's 
>>>> >>>>>>can
>>>> >>>>>>hear, too.
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>Phil.
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>How Big Is God?  The Size Of Your Mouth.
>>>> >>>>>>www.SafePlaceFellowship.com
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: Vicki
>>>> >>>>>>To: ECHURCH-USA@LISTSERV.ICORS..ORG
>>>> >>>>>>Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2013 9:35 PM
>>>> >>>>>>Subject: Re: Doctor's appointment concerning my back today
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>Phil and everybody,
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>Sorry to hear that your visit was less positive than you had 
>>>> >>>>>>hoped it
>>>> >>>>>>would be.  Like you say, the good thing is that you know what you
>>>> >>>>>>know. I can't imagine having that much pain though and I sure 
>>>> >>>>>>will be
>>>> >>>>>>praying. I get some living with pain myself as I am in therapy 
>>>> >>>>>>for a
>>>> >>>>>>torn achiles Tendon.  The therapy has helped a great deal and I 
>>>> >>>>>>have
>>>> >>>>>>exercises to do at home which I am doing.  In addition, I'm 
>>>> >>>>>>headed to
>>>> >>>>>>a hand surgeon on the 13th and praying no surgery to be 
>>>> >>>>>>necessary, and
>>>> >>>>>>everything to be returned to manageable and even more than what 
>>>> >>>>>>I'm
>>>> >>>>>>believing for.  Will be praying that for you too.
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>Vicki
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>.
>>>> >>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: Phil Scovell
>>>> >>>>>>To: ECHURCH-USA@LISTSERV.ICORS..ORG
>>>> >>>>>>Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2013 7:13 PM
>>>> >>>>>>Subject: Doctor's appointment concerning my back today
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>First, happy 137th birthday Colorado.
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>My appointment with the back doctor wasn't all that encouraging 
>>>> >>>>>>today.
>>>> >>>>>>Basically, the x-rays they took today, plus the physical tests 
>>>> >>>>>>they
>>>> >>>>>>did, revealed my lower back is telescoping, that is, the 
>>>> >>>>>>vertebras are
>>>> >>>>>>all pressing downward.  As they  do, they are pressuring the 
>>>> >>>>>>disks
>>>> >>>>>>which in turn are spreading out, slipping to the sides, and 
>>>> >>>>>>coming in
>>>> >>>>>>contact with nerves which creates the pain in all the various
>>>> >>>>>>locations.  The pain changes from the lower back, into my hips, 
>>>> >>>>>>back
>>>> >>>>>>of my legs, and all the way down to my ankles.  Each back 
>>>> >>>>>>episode,
>>>> >>>>>>creates pain in multiple places but not the same places each and 
>>>> >>>>>>every
>>>> >>>>>>time. Also, the pain level my be from mild to severe.  They do 
>>>> >>>>>>not
>>>> >>>>>>recommend surgery because it would take a number of fusions of 
>>>> >>>>>>the
>>>> >>>>>>vertebras to repair the damage that is ongoing.  They are 
>>>> >>>>>>recommending
>>>> >>>>>>physical therapy in order to learn ways of exercising to the 
>>>> >>>>>>point the
>>>> >>>>>>vertebras pull back from each other further and thus creating 
>>>> >>>>>>less
>>>> >>>>>>pressure on the disks.  In short, learn to live with it.  I was 
>>>> >>>>>>hoping
>>>> >>>>>>it would be a single set of vertebra that could be fused but that
>>>> >>>>>>isn't the case. The pain episodes will continue but hopefully, 
>>>> >>>>>>with
>>>> >>>>>>the PT, not as often and the exercises can be continued at home 
>>>> >>>>>>and
>>>> >>>>>>should help keep things in better shape; maybe.  At some point, 
>>>> >>>>>>if the
>>>> >>>>>>PT is helping, I can go back and get shots in different places of 
>>>> >>>>>>my
>>>> >>>>>>lower back to help with pain management, if it gets unbearable, 
>>>> >>>>>>that
>>>> >>>>>>is, but only time will tell.  Learning to live with pain is going 
>>>> >>>>>>to
>>>> >>>>>>be the name of the game.  At least now I know. Certainly not as
>>>> >>>>>>encouraging as I would have hoped but knowing is better than not
>>>> >>>>>>knowing.
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>Phil.
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>Satan Has A God Complex
>>>> >>>>>>www.SafePlaceFellowship.com
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>John
>>>> >>
>>>> >
>>>
>>
> 

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