ANGEL,
i WOULD ACTUALLY AGREE WITH YOU.  i AM TO AFRAID TO SAY SUCH THINGS.
i HAVE QUESTIONS, ABOUT WHY THIS OR THAT HAS HAPPENED, BUT TO STATE 
SOMETHING TOLD ME THAT i HATE GOD? NOT YET, AND IF I DID, I WOULD JUMP OUT 
OF MY SKIN.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Angel238" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 2:41 PM
Subject: Re: I Hate God


> This is just weird.  I can't be the only one who has never had such 
> thoughts.  This post would cause us all to think we all have had such 
> weird thoughts, but, I never have had such thoughts.  I will admit I have 
> questioned why God allows certain things to happen but I have never even 
> considered hating God, or questioning his infinite wisdom.  Merely I 
> wondered why certain things such as the loss of my husband's mind, for 
> example, would happen.  I questioned how these things could happen if God 
> loved and cared for us.  But I have never denied his existence or 
> disrespected him in any by hating him.  I can't be the only one who has 
> never at all had such thoughts?
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Phil Scovell" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 2:11 PM
> Subject: I Hate God
>
>
>>I Hate God
>>
>>
>> By Phil Scovell
>>
>>
>>
>>     One thing I try and teach those with whom I pray, is about
>> how demons use thoughts and emotions, or feelings, to deceive us.
>> Nearly everyone reading this article has experienced such thoughts
>> and feelings, and probably many times throughout your Christian
>> walk with the Lord, but likely have never determined its identity.
>> I could describe a lot of things people experience, or feelings,
>> physically, and perhaps emotionally, too, when the Enemy is
>> tossing his fiery darts, but let me begin with one that is common.
>>
>>     You may hear in your thoughts, not an audible voice you
>> understand, but just thoughts within your thoughts, "You are a
>> lousy Christian."  This can vary widely, from being the worst
>> sinner on the planet, doomed to hell, or even accusations that
>> you deserve how you feel because you are a wicked, mean, evil
>> person.  I'd had people sit across from my desk tell me, "If
>> people knew what I really was down inside, they would hate me and
>> stay as far away from me as possible."  When I pray about what
>> they just said and try probing deeper, they often describe that
>> inner feeling that frightens them about themselves is evil.  Some
>> may even confess they have Satan in them or a devil or demon and
>> conclude that must be why they think and feel the way they do
>> about themselves.  Likewise, few Christian believe lying spirits
>> use feelings, their own feelings, the confuse and to deceive.
>>
>>     Let me explain another level, a more sinister level, of
>> deception the Enemy uses against us many times and that is the
>> direct approach.
>>
>>     Recently, I was going through some things in my own life that
>> were incredibly stressful.  That doesn't mean, in particular, it
>> was demonic, but it could just have easily been the stress and
>> tension of every day life.  At least three times, I believe it
>> was, and all over a period of a couple of days, in my thoughts I
>> heard, "I hate you God."  Woe horse!  I mean, here is one way, we
>> immediately think, of eternal condemnation, the unpardonable sin,
>> and blasphemies against God, on the fly, as it were.  In fact, we
>> are lucky we don't get struck by lighting when something like that
>> passes through our thoughts.  Right?  If a person reacts favorably
>> to such a thought, that is, agrees with it as legitimate, all
>> hell breaks loose.  All sorts of things get conjured up and
>> invoked.  For example, "Well, this confirms it.  I'm going to
>> hell.  I deserve it, too after thinking such a heinous and
>> nefarious thought."  This is, of course, only the beginning.
>> Many people, young or old, can begin to experience all sorts of
>> such thoughts  Some even begin acting out based upon those thing.
>> Getting drunk so often until you think you've killed the thoughts
>> in your brain, getting so high you can't see the ground, living
>> immorally, heterosexually or homosexually, just to have some
>> degree of pleasure to try and override the horrible thoughts, and
>> some get involved in new age, which are really old age, religious
>> practices to try and clear their mind of the evil thoughts they
>> think they are having.  Some even join cults to try and filter
>> out, or at least tone down, the horrible thoughts in their minds.
>> Some even turn to violence.  How many of the satellite and cable
>> shows have you seen of serial killers where their neighbors,
>> after finding out he killed 38 people in the last four years, say,
>> "Oh, he was such a nice guy.  He took out my trash, shoveled my
>> walk, and even mowed my lawn," while all the time they were living
>> next door to a murderer.  How do you suppose those types of
>> horrible people got to be murderers?  Do you suppose they just
>> awakened one morning and said, "I feel like killing someone today,
>> cutting off their head, and having sex with the corps?  Of course
>> that isn't the way it begins.  They generally all have gotten a
>> mighty good jump start from being physically, and generally,
>> sexually, abused as children.  I remember one such program I watch
>> of a guy who killed a couple of young women and in prison, he told
>> about his dad who always talked about how much he hated him as his
>> son, always physically beat him, sometimes for nothing he had
>> done, and once he picked up his dog, tossed the dog into the air
>> as high as he could, and shot the dog in front of the little boy
>> before his dog could hit the ground.  That poor little boy had no
>> chance because his immature mind could not, in any logical way,
>> sort out all that was happening to him.  In every serial program I
>> have watched, and I deliberately watch many of them, I wait until
>> they talk about the murderer and his life that led up to a life of
>> murderous crime.  They all, every one, have similar horrid
>> childhood beginnings.  I've even heard them, after killing dozens
>> of people, say, "The voices in my head told me to do it and the
>> only way I could silence the voices is to do what they said."
>> Well, excuse me, but that ain't God talking in their head so whom
>> do you suppose it might be?  No, I'm not saying they shouldn't be
>> imprisoned, in fact, I'm not even suggesting they shouldn't be put
>> to death for their crimes.  I am saying, these horrible cases
>> developed often by being jump started in some very traumatic and
>> cadaverous ways.  Let's go back to the every day experience,
>> however, and focus on that, instead of the worst, in order to gain
>> greater spiritual insight.
>>
>>     As I said, or started to say, I recently experienced, in my
>> thoughts, what normally used to be a quite unsettling and
>> disturbing thought: "I hate you God."  In times past, this thought
>> would be accompanied by an apprehensive flush of anxiety and fear
>> that would blow the needle off the panic meter.  You see, the
>> flush of sudden anxiety feeling confirmed the thought must be
>> true.
>>
>>     One day, I was sitting on a chair just off the edge of the
>> driveway keeping track of my two little grandsons riding their
>> trikes.  This same identical thought, and feeling, slammed into me
>> like a truck running over my body.  I immediately freaked.  "Oh,
>> my God!  I must be an evil person.  Why, I can't be saved.  No
>> born again Christian would ever even think such a thing."  That is
>> what I normally began to embellish in my thoughts, emotions
>> corresponded to confirm the thought.  However, I had been having
>> some healing experiences which were making me more attuned to the
>> voice, or thoughts, of  the Holy Spirit, than the Enemy.  So, when
>> this thought penetrated my thinking patterns, the emotional
>> counterpart accompanied the thought so I would be deceived into
>> thinking that I really, deep down inside, hate God.  This time, on
>> the other hand, something unique occurred.  A split second the
>> thought invaded my thoughts and the feeling slammed into my body,
>> I sucked in my breath out of fear that this was who I really was
>> deep down inside.  The next second, my thoughts said, "Hey, wait
>> just a minute.  I don't hate God and never have.  Holy cow!  this
>> is a lying spirit attacking my mind.  Oh, great!"  This joyful
>> attitude arose because I had already learned, the origin of such
>> thoughts were not coming from deep inside of me but they were
>> lies of the Enemy always coming from the outside.  I said, "Oh,
>> god.  This is wonderful.  Now I can pray and find where this lying
>> spirit is," and I opened my mouth to pray.  It was too late.  The
>> lying spirit instantly recognized my awareness of his identity
>> through his thoughts he was putting in my mind and his emotions he
>> was putting on my feelings, and it was like a sonic boom just
>> exploded.  Something I felt, spiritually speaking, on my back,
>> blew off like dynamite had just gone off.  In my thoughts, my
>> mind's eye sort of speak, he blew miles backward and guess what?
>> The anxiety began to slowly subside until it eventually went away
>> all together.
>>
>>     So, when this recently happened again, honestly, you'd think
>> they would change tactics after awhile, the instant the thoughts,
>> "I hate God," invaded my thoughts, I stopped what I was doing
>> before the feelings of fear and anxiety could be dumped on me by
>> the demonic presence and I prayed against the lies of the lying
>> spirit and all those who might be working under his authority.
>> The anxiety never reached my feelings once during the three times
>> this happened because I took the thought captive the second I
>> heard it in my mind.  My point is this.  The lying spirit spoke in
>> the first person, "I hate God."  That made it sound like I said it
>> but I couldn't say such a thing because I have the Holy Spirit
>> dwelling in my spirit and He, the Holy Spirit, always agrees with
>> the Scriptures, the Word and voice of God, and never lies.  Thus,
>> the Holy Spirit came along side of me and assisted me is seeing
>> the lie instantly and the lie never was able to take a foothold in
>> my thoughts or feelings.
>>
>>     We often forget that it is our spirit, where the Holy Spirit
>> dwells, that is born again.  Glorification doesn't take place,
>> that is, the salvation of our body and soul, until Jesus comes.
>> Think of it in terms of our Lord's own resurrection.  He needed no
>> blood then because all three parts, body, soul, and spirit, were
>> glorified in one body so He did not have the same existence as he
>> did when He was born of a virgin.  You understand what I mean?
>> Think about it for awhile and while you are thinking, take every
>> thought captive when necessary.
>>
>>
>> It Sounds Like God To Me.
>> www.SafePlaceFellowship.com
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