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thanks as I really do want one though financially it isn't too bad as my
room mate and I share.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Vinny Samarco" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2005 8:15 PM
Subject: Re: spiritual abuse


Hi Kerri,
I'll begin to pray specifically that the Lord will give you the job you
need.
Vinny
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kerri" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2005 7:00 PM
Subject: Re: spiritual abuse


> Hi Vicky, it has about 100 htousand people but what it has in population
it
> sure lacks in resources. We only have one college which doesn't offer
trade
> type courses like medical transcription or courg stenographer etc. All the
> employment I'd like are in Vancouver which is an hour and a half away and
> very expensive.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Vicki and The Rors" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2005 3:34 PM
> Subject: Re: spiritual abuse
>
>
> Kerri,
>
> Are you in a small town?  Not that it makes a difference, jobs just seem
to
> be hard to come by regardless.  I sure know what it's like, and it's no
fun.
>
> Vicki
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kerri" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2005 11:57 AM
> Subject: Re: [ECHURCH-USA] spiritual abuse
>
>
> > OH thanks, I just wish I knew what to do or where to look. tried
> > volunteering at our comunity police office, tried the cancer agency,
> > secretarial employment, human service worker, even taxi driving smile.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "virgie underwood" <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2005 6:40 AM
> > Subject: Re: spiritual abuse
> >
> >
> > Kerri,
> > I know how humiliating it can be when you are looking for work.
> > I have been turned down many times because of my disability.
> > They even told me that was why I did not get the job.
> > Keep the faith and try not to get discouraged.
> > Huggs and blessings.
> > Virgie At 01:49 AM 7/3/2005, you wrote:
> >
> > >bergie et al, I have never worked but have sought it in so many places,
I
> > >could write a novel. I've taken employment seeking and assistance
courses
> > >for people with disabilities, been subjected to degrading psychological
> > >vocational assessments, but all to no avail. I've even tried volunteer
> work
> > >seeking and nothing.
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "virgie underwood" <[log in to unmask]>
> > >To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > >Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 1:22 PM
> > >Subject: Re: spiritual abuse
> > >
> > >
> > >Kerri,
> > >I know what you mean.
> > >I get frustrated with work sometimes and I think I would like to be
> > >unemployed.
> > >When I have a few days off, I realize I could not stand not working.
> > >What kind of work have you done in the past?
> > >Praying for you.
> > >Huggs, Virgie At 01:42 PM 7/2/2005, you wrote:
> > >
> > > >Yes doing really well Bergie though getting tired of not working.
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: "virgie underwood" <[log in to unmask]>
> > > >To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > > >Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 4:06 AM
> > > >Subject: Re: spiritual abuse
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Kerri,
> > > >Thanks.
> > > >Hope you are doing well.
> > > >Virgie At 09:56 PM 7/1/2005, you wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >I think personally you did fine, Bergie and besides you ca't
rectify
> it
> > > > >now
> > > > >and God knows yoru intent.
> > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > >From: "virgie underwood" <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > >To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > >Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 3:20 PM
> > > > >Subject: Re: spiritual abuse
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >Keri,
> > > > >I was very young and very shy and scared.
> > > > >I did tell him that it was not time for me to be healed.
> > > > >I wanted to say to him that Jesus could heal me without his help,
but
> I
> > > > >was
> > > > >afraid of getting a whipping when I got home.
> > > > >I hope I did not misjudge that preacher.
> > > > >Virgie At 01:46 PM 7/1/2005, you wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >Wow Bergie, that preacher soounded awful and he wanted
> credit,instead
> > > > > >of
> > > > > >glorifying the lord. Whenever people ask if I believe in healing
my
> > > > > >answer
> > > > > >is yes but I don't require it.
> > > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > > >From: "virgie underwood" <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > > >To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > > >Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 5:52 AM
> > > > > >Subject: Re: spiritual abuse
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Kerri,
> > > > > >When I was a young girl, my step mother took me to a preacher who
> was
> > > > > >said
> > > > > >to have healing power through the Lord.
> > > > > >First, he put his hand on my head so hard that it hurt.
> > > > > >He kept pushing on my head until I thought I was going to fall.
> > > > > >He asked if I had faith in God, and did I think he could heal me.
> > > > > >I answered yes, I do have faith and I believe that Jesus could
heal
> > > > > >me.
> > > > > >He prayed, it seemed to me quite a long time.
> > > > > >He asked me can you see now?
> > > > > >I said yes, but no better than I could before you prayed.
> > > > > >He told me that it was my fault that I didn't get healed because
I
> > > > > >did
> > > > > >not
> > > > > >have the faith.
> > > > > >I answered, that I did have faith, but that I did not think it
was
> > > > > >the
> > > > > >time
> > > > > >that Jesus Christ had chosen for me to see.
> > > > > >I said that when it is time for me to be healed, Jesus will do
it.
> > > > > >What his comments did to me was to make me doubt my faith.
> > > > > >It made me think for a while that it was my fault that I was not
> > > > > >healed.
> > > > > >I have prayed about this and have discovered that it was not my
> > > > > >fault.
> > > > > >I really believe that this preacher was looking for credit and
> glory
> > > > > >for
> > > > > >himself.
> > > > > >I pray that Jesus will forgive me if I am wrong about that.
> > > > > >I also pray that he will reveal the truth to me about this man if
I
> > > > > >am
> > > > > >wrong.
> > > > > >I know we are not suppose to judge others, and I try not to do
> that.
> > > > > >I do not believe that it was abuse though.
> > > > > >My step mother wanted to help me because she loved me.
> > > > > >I can understand how you are feeling and why you feel that way.
> > > > > >Please share with us any time.
> > > > > >You will not be chastised here for your feelings and concerns.
> > > > > >Huggs and blessings.
> > > > > >Yours in Christ
> > > > > >Virgie At 01:39 AM 7/1/2005, you wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >Hello all. Is there usch a thing as spiritual abuse? I as this
> > > > > > >because
> > > > > > >an
> > > > > > >issue occured when a child that I call abuse and wanted yor
> opinion
> > > > > > >on
> > > > > > >it.
> > > > > > >     My parents took me at a very young age to a healer
probably
> in
> > > > > > > 1979
> > > > > > > or
> > > > > > >early eighties because they thought I was going to die of my
bone
> > > > > > >disease.
> > > > > > >This man they told them, had the gift of discernment and that
God
> > > > > > >revealed
> > > > > > >things about the people he prayed for. This man asked me if I
had
> > > > > > >spirits
> > > > > > >in
> > > > > > >me like spirits of anger or spirits of doubt. Now mind you I
was
> > > > > > >saved
> > > > > > >by
> > > > > > >the time I was 5 years old. He then plunked his hand on my head
> and
> > > > > > >started
> > > > > > >chanting leave leave to these spirits. I remember feeling
really
> > > > > > >nervous
> > > > > > >but
> > > > > > >said nohting thinking my parents knew best. the man also said
> maybe
> > > > > > >I'd
> > > > > > >see
> > > > > > >soon which never happened. Well time passed, and what happened
> was
> > > > > > >that
> > > > > > >people ignored me a lot, I'd get rejected often, never had
> friends
> > > > > > >and
> > > > > > >then
> > > > > > >couldn't find work. Last December, I was wondering why I never
> > > > > > >could
> > > > > > >trust
> > > > > > >God propperly, as I have a great relationship with my dad, when
> the
> > > > > > >above
> > > > > > >scene was revealed to me. I remembered everything in total
> detail,
> > > > > > >most
> > > > > > >of
> > > > > > >which I'd forgotten. My questions are
> > > > > > >1. Is this or was this abuse and
> > > > > > >2. Do you think there is any corelation between my utter
> inability
> > > > > > >to
> > > > > > >find
> > > > > > >work and people ignoring me. Now please know, I dislike healing
> > > > > > >intesnely,
> > > > > > >it scares me, the holy spirit in fact I find unnerving and
never
> > > > > > >knew
> > > > > > >why.
> > > > > > >What we think happened was that I subconsciously felt that
since
> > > > > > >this
> > > > > > >guy
> > > > > > >asked if I had all these spirits in me, the holy spirit either
> was
> > > > > > >no
> > > > > > >good
> > > > > > >or thought ill of me.  to top that all off, my parents took me
to
> > > > > > >these
> > > > > > >types of things repeatedly not knowing this isn't good for a
> child.
> > > > > > >I
> > > > > > >hope
> > > > > > >you don't think this is utter haracy, was very very nervous to
> > > > > > >reveal
> > > > > > >this
> > > > > > >to anyone. Be glad for all God is planning for you. Be patient
in
> > > > > > >trouble,
> > > > > > >and always be prayerful.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >                               Romans 12:12, NLT
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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