I changed a diaper once when I was a teenager, haven't done it since.  I
wasn't shown how, I just did it.  Fortunately for me, this chiuld was very
cooperative.

Cecily

-----Original Message-----
From: Echurch-USA The Electronic Church
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of JULIE MELTON
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 9:04 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Serious Prayer Request Tonight

Jennifer,

Don't feel stupid.  I have many nieces and nephews but am in the same boat.
I asked several times about learning to change diapers, but it never
happened.  There was always someone else around to do it.

JulieMelton
visit me at
www.heart-and-music.com
Keep smiling!


----- Original Message -----
From: "Jenifer Barr" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 1:54 PM
Subject: Re: Serious Prayer Request Tonight


> if o/to sorry.  but chris's question got me thinking.  I have 2 nephews
> and
> someday probably will have kids myself.  And I've never changed a diaper!
> Isn't that sad!  LOL I feel so stupid!
> Jenifer Barr.
> Dear God: I have a problem.  It's me.
> AIM: jenibear1998
> msn
> [log in to unmask]
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Showery" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2005 5:48 AM
> Subject: Re: Serious Prayer Request Tonight
>
>
> > Chris, here are some suggestions.  When putting a coat on a little one,
> > take the little ones hand or wrist, rather than the arm, so you don't
> > have
> > to worry about the hand flopping around when guiding it into the
> > sleeve.  As for tying shoes, you could have the child stand in the shoes
> > with his back facing you so his shoes would be facing the same direction
> > as
> > your shoes.
> >
> > earlier, Chris Gilland, wrote:
> >>Unluckally, only one.
> >>
> >>
> >>Tonight was a really stressful night.  There were some things I got to
> >>do
> >>tonight, I'd rather not say what, but that I never thought I'd ever have
> >>the
> >>chance to do.  It's nothing bad at all, just generally some things.
> >>Only
> >>problem is, my sister inlaw completely trusted, and still does trust me,
> >>however, Kristin mother went as far as to think I was actually purposely
> >>hurting my little neece.  I'll say no more than that.  I told her, I'm
> >>not
> >>that stupid.  Kaitlyn is so precious to me, I love her like my own.  I
> >>would
> >>never hurt her.  I couldn;t if I had to.  I won't say what I did, but
> >>I'll
> >>at least say this much:  I am fully convinced now, that if I ever have
> >>kids,
> >>I would be a good father to them.  There are some things I just had to
> >>see
> >>where I really stood on, and I thus tonight, with both the help of my
> >>wife,
> >>and with God's mercy, and help, was able to determine, that my grounds
> >>are
> >>very Godly.  I honest surprised not only myself, but I think I surprised
> >>my
> >>sister inlaw too.  There were some things that we had to help with, and
> >>Kristin had asked Emily, my sister inlaw, if I could at least try to
> >>help
> >>on
> >>my own.  Here is the funny thing.  Kristin's mom was like absolutely
> >>not,
> >>however Emily right away without hesitating was like, sure.  In fact she
> >>went as far as to say, tonight, Chris, you and Kristin are the parents
> >>while
> >>we're here.  I'm stepping back.  I'll help if needed, but consider this
> >>a
> >>test.  I want see how you all would react in certain instances.  I'll
> >>admit, boy, I never knew taking care of a kid could be so hard!  Fun,
> >>but
> >>hard!  I'm a bit warn out, so I think I'll end now, but honestly, I know
> >>this is asking for it to ask this question, but if it were not for
> >>finances,
> >>and things, do you think just assuming that God provided the money, and
> >>bills and such, if that wasn't an issue, hypotheticly speaking, that I
> >>would
> >>be a good parent?  I've heard mixed comments on this.  I've heard some
> >>say,
> >>if they were me, they'd not trying in a million years, but I've heard
> >>others
> >>say I'm much too hard on myself, I'd make an excellent father.  I know a
> >>lot
> >>of you all haven't viewed face to face my home living skills as far as
> >>independence, and what not, but based on things I have told you all,
> >>both
> >>on
> >>and off list, do you think it's even possible, or do you think I'd be
> >>somewhat of a problem.
> >>
> >>I want the truth.  I mean, obviously tonight I think I surprised
> >>everyone
> >>including myself.  I did much better with handling things than I
> >>suspected.
> >>I'll say this much for those of you that know what I do mean...  I've
> >>not
> >>factering in my OCD.  That has nothing to do with the things that had to
> >>be
> >>done tonight.  Nothing like that, just things in general.  Like some
> >>again,
> >>I don't wanna name, just as it would take too long to explain the idea
> >>behind it as they are kind of family type rituals.  For one though, I
> >>had
> >>a
> >>realy big pitcher of apple juice.  Kaitlyn wanted some.  I was
> >>reluctant,
> >>for one, to pour it, as I knew with my mild CP it would make my hands
> >>tremble like crazy, and I'd probably drop it.  Well, I care so much for
> >>her,
> >>I did it, just for her, even though I didn't really want to.  Well,
> >>guess
> >>what.  I did it!  Not even one droplet spilling.  Then, she needed help
> >>at
> >>one point putting on her coat.  Well, I've never dressed a kid, much
> >>less
> >>put a coat or something on one, so I knew being she's in front of me, I
> >>gotta think backwards, that kind a worried me a bit, that I couldn;'t do
> >>it.
> >>Well, I did.  I was a bit lopsided, but Kristin told me it was a good
> >>start,
> >>that I was awefully close.  Here's though where I had the biggest
> >>problem,
> >>and if any of you all currently have little ones, maybe you could try to
> >>write out the mistakes you made from a blind perspective, and why it was
> >>made, so that I could learn from it, and maybe talk me through it for
> >>the
> >>future.  Kaitlyn's only 2.  I think that's real important for me to say
> >>up
> >>front, so that you all can get a feel for her size.  Well, I grabbed the
> >>coat with one hand, and with the other grabbed her arm nearst to her
> >>elbow.
> >>I tried to put her arm through but my problem was just like with a
> >>shirt,
> >>trying to find exactly how to feel where the arm hole was to line up her
> >>arm.  Then, I was really scared I was going to push too hard on her arm
> >>trying to get it in, and then hurt her.  Kristin finally had to take
> >>over
> >>at
> >>that task and finnish it off as I just got too jumpy.  I think this is
> >>certainly something I could have done.  It is just that there are two
> >>problems:  one is, again, me having to be so gentle that I couldn't get
> >>enough good leverage.  The other thing was again, since she was facing
> >>me,
> >>that meant her right was my left, her left was my right.  In other
> >>words,
> >>I
> >>had to do everything backwards.  like I had to at one time tonight help
> >>her
> >>tie her shoes.  Well, I did a wonderful job, except one issue:  I tied
> >>them
> >>as if they were on me.  Kristin took one look and she's like, well, you
> >>did
> >>it, except that they're tied upside down.  I don't know how on earth
> >>someone
> >>is supposed to do that backwards.  It's hard enough to have me do it
> >>correctly, much less flip flopping everything.  A friend suggested that
> >>next
> >>time, if I ever am put where I have to dress her or tie her shoe, etc.
> >>have
> >>her sit on my lap with the back of her head facing my face.  This way
> >>we're
> >>both sitting facing the same direction.  However, most others have said,
> >>yeah, that's a thought, however, the problem there is, I wouldn't have a
> >>good feel as the angle would be way off.  When you all have to tie a
> >>kid's
> >>shoe, for example:  among other things, how do you all do it sighted or
> >>not,
> >>since you have to do it backwards.  Anyway, there's my scary night for
> >>yall.
> >>LOL!
> >>
> >>
> >>Chris.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>----- Original Message -----
> >>From: "Vicki and The Rors" <[log in to unmask]>
> >>To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >>Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2005 7:32 PM
> >>Subject: Re: Serious Prayer Request Tonight
> >>
> >>
> >> > Chris,
> >> >
> >> > Well, there's one relief off your mind.
> >> >
> >> > Vicki
> >> >
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "Chris Gilland" <[log in to unmask]>
> >> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >> > Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 6:24 PM
> >> > Subject: Re: [ECHURCH-USA] Serious Prayer Request Tonight
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> Thank God!
> >> >>
> >> >> No no, I mean, wo, hold it, don't get me wrong, no no, I don't mean
> >> >> I
> >> > won't
> >> >> still pray.  I still will.  It's just that I'm releaved that it
> >> >> isn't
> >> >> someone that I am really really patheticly close to.  I've already
> >> >> lost
> >> >> Hope, I couldn't stand losing someone else.
> >> >>
> >> >> OK, I didn't lose Hope by death, and believe me if I did, I'd not be
> >> >> here
> >> >> now writing this either, but that kind a talk will stop right there.
> >> >>
> >> >> I just... I dunno.
> >> >>
> >> >> Chris sighs.
> >> >>
> >> >> Maybe I'm just crazy, yeah, I guess that's it.  O well.  I'd rather
> >> >> be
> >> > crazy
> >> >> than stupid.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Chris.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> >> From: "Vicki and The Rors" <[log in to unmask]>
> >> >> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >> >> Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 8:08 PM
> >> >> Subject: Re: Serious Prayer Request Tonight
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> > Chris,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > It's Phil's friend George in Oklahoma, whose daughter's name is
> >> > Jennifer.
> >> >> > Not the Jennifer on echurch list.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Vicki
> >> >> >
> >> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> >> > From: "Chris Gilland" <[log in to unmask]>
> >> >> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >> >> > Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 5:56 PM
> >> >> > Subject: Re: [ECHURCH-USA] Serious Prayer Request Tonight
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> O my God!  Please God tell me this isn't Jennefer Bar we're
> >> >> >> talking
> >> >> >> about!
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Chris.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> >> >> From: "Vicki and The Rors" <[log in to unmask]>
> >> >> >> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >> >> >> Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 7:43 PM
> >> >> >> Subject: Re: Serious Prayer Request Tonight
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > I'm late seeing this but will pray just the same.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Vicki
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> >> >> > From: "Phil Scovell" <[log in to unmask]>
> >> >> >> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >> >> >> > Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 7:20 PM
> >> >> >> > Subject: [ECHURCH-USA] Serious Prayer Request Tonight
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> George called me today.  Two national labs have discovered
> >> >> >> >> Jennifer,
> >> >> > his
> >> >> >> > 23
> >> >> >> >> year old daughter, has a bacteria in her lungs which cannot be
> >> > treated
> >> >> > by
> >> >> >> >> any known antibiotic.  She is officially off, therefore, the
> >> >> >> >> list
> >> > for
> >> >> >> >> a
> >> >> >> > lung
> >> >> >> >> transplant.  Only a miracle will save her life.  Since we
> >> >> >> >> believe
> >> >> >> >> in
> >> >> >> >> miracles, exercise your God given authority against this
> >> >> >> >> bacteria
> >> > and
> >> >> >> >> command it to die just like Jesus did the fig tree.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Phil.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> I Flew Kites With Jesus
> >> >> >> >> www.safeplacefellowship.com
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> >> No virus found in this outgoing message.
> >> >> >> >> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> >> >> >> >> Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.7 - Release Date:
> >> >> >> >> 2/10/05
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >
> > John
> >
> >   Why should I grow up ? This is more fun !
> >
>