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Children do suffer the consequences of a parent's sin.  Look at all the
crack babies and the babies with aids.  It may not be nice to think of but
it is true never the less.  Our entire family does suffer when one of us
sins in some way.
----- Original Message -----
From: Karen Carter <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 10:40 AM
Subject: Re: for God's Glory a devotion that caused my question...


> No.  Man is responsible for his own sin.  If we were blind for someone
elses sin everyone in the world would be handicapped in someway.  There is a
verse that says all man are responsible for his own sin.  I know in the old
testimentbefore Jesus there were generational curses but Jesus wiped that
all away.  I know there are those of you who know where the appropriate
verses are.  We were born early due to the consiquences of our mothers
drinking and such but not because of sin.  I know drinking is a sin but God
would not punish us for it.
>
> --
> I would rather live my life as if there is a God, and die to find out
there isn't, than live my life as if there isn't, and die to find out there
is
>
> IN GOD WE TRUST
> Karen Carter  '74
> -KC- Ministries
>
>
>  -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: [log in to unmask]
> > Perhaps we were just predestined to be blind ha ha.  Seriously, though,
> > don't you thing blindness can be just a consequence of a previous action
or
> > condition of our parents?  My mother was malnourished as a child because
my
> > grandparents were very poor.  She also smoked and drank while she
carried
> > me.  She never had any prenatal care till I threatened to get out of
there
> > altogether by miscarrying.  Then she went up to Cleveland where there
were
> > doctors who could help her.  They did their best to keep me from coming
to
> > soon but I did at 26 weeks along.  My mother told me the doctor gave her
> > medication to try to keep me in the womb even on Sundays at his office.
My
> > being born prematurely is what caused my blindness.  This is a mere
> > consequence of all the hardships my mother had to endure and of the care
she
> > took of herself prior to my being born.  Many times people don't manage
> > properly their diabetes or something which leads to consequences.  Don't
you
> > think this could be true?
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: MV <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 7:25 AM
> > Subject: Re: for God's Glory a devotion that caused my question...
> >
> >
> > > Kathy,
> > >
> > > You wrote...
> > > "Why is it easier to believe that God can cure a back ache or a head
ache
> > > that can't be seen and is totally subjective and not my eyes, which
would
> > > actually require physical reconstruction?"
> > >
> > > Bingo sister! It is curious too why, and perhaps it is me only, that
we
> > > hear of folks being healed of one leg longer than the other and not
one
> > > like us with an obvious life changing ailment??? Why is that or is it
just
> > > me? Also you are right in saying many walk away looking at our's or
> > other's
> > > situations "Gee I'm thankful I'm not in that situation". I did even
see
> > > some of that in the devotion Rhonda posted. It is sooooo easy for
people
> > to
> > > say "God has blessed you with the ability to handle your situation,
> > > praise  and glory to him who gave you patience and look all you
learned
> > > from this situation", and then they hop in their car and drive
> > > home.  Granted I bet we do the same with those we feel have harder
cards
> > to
> > > play in life. It is a different perspective when   someone with an
> > > affliction gives glory for the illness, but to me, and I reluctantly
say
> > > anything here as I said I don't want to pull at anyone's beliefs that
> > > enable them to cope, but I can't see  glory in that either.  Perhaps
I'm
> > > not spiritually mature to that point yet, maybe that's it. I do
however
> > see
> > > a gigantic  opportunity for people to see God's glory in my healing. I
> > know
> > > many blind vendors here in WI, plus having been blind for sometime
now,
> > > gotten to know many blind folks, and of course we become pegged as the
> > > blind guy who does this or does that by sighted folks, and then of
course
> > > our relatives, think of that impact. I wonder what they'd do or say or
> > > wonder if they saw me driving next week, looking them square in the
eye,
> > > waving and smiling hahaha? Now there's opportunity for glory. And you
know
> > > what? Isn't that what Jesus meant and demonstrated with the blind guy
when
> > > the disciples asked him who sinned this man or his parents? And Jesus
said
> > > neither but for the glory of God, then he spit in mud, swiped his eyes
and
> > > said wash off dude and you'll be flashing them baby blues. And didn't
the
> > > blind man give credit to Jesus? Who in turn gave credit to the
> > > Father?  Perhaps I am a bit *snapping fingers* what's the word I'm
looking
> > > for... rebellious? Brash? No no, I don't know the word, upfront
> > > maybe???  anyway it is almost  rather than to say God wills me this
way
> > and
> > > get's glory out of it,  I  can't help  not hiding my thoughts in
saying
> > "OK
> > > God. Point blank here, no more games, no more fooling around with this
> > > thing. Do you heal or don't you? And if so, why not me so I can fix
what
> > is
> > > out of your will and move on with the life you given me in a way I was
> > > originally equipped to do! If you don't then I know the score and I'll
> > fall
> > > in place and accept that."  I don't mean that disrespectfully, but I
also
> > > can't feel one way and hide it from him. That's just foolishness.
> > >
> > > Brad

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