Why then do some churches accept in their communities those who divorce for
reasons other then adultery. Jesus said only a man has the rite to divorce
a woman not the other way around, and adultery is the only reason for
divorce. Why do women go in to churches with no head covering as St. Paul
said this shouldn't be. Why do women teach in churches when St. Paul said
they should be silent in the church. Also why is polygamy not practiced.
There are many thing Jesus specifically said we should do many churches
don't practice these days They have excuses for this of course but these
things aren't adhered to. Why then must we say these two loving people
shouldn't follow their hearts particularly because they have extenuating
circumstances.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Karen Carter" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 2:38 PM
Subject: Re: question, problem, and prayer request.
> AMAN Brad. I said that in shorter terms. and Also you are not to
comvorm to the world but live as Christ .
>
> --
> Christ is either Lord of all or he is not Lord at all.
> Karen Carter '74
>
>
>
> > Do we have a godly biblical example of living together before marriage?
It
> > is always best, prudent and wise to bring our situations back to
scripture
> > no matter how it might cut cross grain to us. Their may be situations
> > today that may not have existed then, but come to think of it not all
that
> > many. In any event giving the appearance of evil is not only a concern
for
> > ourselves, in our own conern of what people may think, but also that of
> > all Christians. What if you tried witnessing to a non-believer and they
> > said "Don't talk to me about being high and mighty or living righteous,
I
> > know a christian couple who lived together before marriage, how does
that
> > differ from non-Christians today?". You see we bare the responsibility
of
> > wearing Christ-like across our chest when we are known as such, and
> > appearing as non-believers with a live-in situation doesn't seem to line
> > up biblically or doing as the Word says, to stay away from even the
> > appearance of sin, not to mention surposefully put ourselves in
> > temptations way no matter how strong we feel our faith is. Psalms 1 says
> >
> > Ps 1:1-2
> > Blessed is the man who does not walk in the counsel of the wicked or
stand
> > in the way of sinners
> > or sit in the seat of mockers. But his delight is in the law of the
LORD,
> > and on his law he meditates day and night.
> >
> > Notice the progression of "walk", "stand" and "sit" it cannotes a
gradual
> > decline if allowed to entertain the ideals of ideals working against the
> > law or God's Word.
> >
> > I saw a message somewhere about if one gives in to a principle as such
> > now, how that might affect futre decisoins and ect. I agree. What would
> > make a couple stronger, living together because of life's circumstances
> > or arranging other means until that day when no holds are preventing a
> > couple of living as a married one.
> >
> > Brad
> >
> >
> >
> > on 02:47 AM 7/21/2005, Angel said:
> > I agree with you. It seems Christians today think the devil is bound to
> > win
> > in every situation. I think if you do live together without falling in
to
> > sin it will prove to you more than anything else your love for each
other
> > is
> > not based on mere physical attraction but instead is a heavenly godly
love
> > which will last through the years. It will also serve as a testament of
> > your commitment to god's precepts. I will pray that you be constant in
> > this
> > commitment which I know you will and that your marriage will last as
long
> > as
> > the firm foundation on which it will be built which is Christ.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jenifer Barr" <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 9:36 PM
> > Subject: Re: question, problem, and prayer request.
> >
> >
> > > what is a vow between god and two people? If we have vowed before
God
> > and
> > > each other that sex will not occur until marriage, then why is living
> > > together a sin? We are not intimate until then. I understand about
> > > temptation but that's when you pray every day that God keeps you
> > strong.
> > >
> > > Our situation is unique and it's not like we haven't prayed about
> > it. I
> > > guess I'm just hurt because everyone seems to think that just because
> > we're
> > > going to be living together the devel is going to win. God is the
only
> > one
> > > in control. Is this our ideal situation? no. I've been through too
> > much
> > > in the past to know what temptation can do to someone... and i... or
> > yet
> > > we... will not break our vow before god.
> > >
> > > Jenifer Barr.
> > > When the trumpet blows... I'm outta here!
> > > AIM: jenibear1998
> > > msn
> > > [log in to unmask]
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Kathy Du Bois" <[log in to unmask]>
> > > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 2:06 PM
> > > Subject: Re: question, problem, and prayer request.
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hey Jen,
> > > > First of all, I'm sorry that you are dealing with an
> > inflexible
> > > > pastor. I don't see what difference it makes to him whether the
> > cerimony
> > > > is big or small, before or after the civil cerimony. I suppose
that
> > he
> > is
> > > > standing on something for theological reasons, but I have no clue
> > what
> > > > that
> > > > would be. It seems to me that you are left with three
> > options: switch
> > > > pastors, move the wedding up, or leave things as they are and
trust
> > God
> > > > for a miracle. As a child of God, the one option that you don't
> > have,
> > is
> > > > to move in together. If you begin your marriage by compromising
> > your
> > > > principles on something that is truly small in the grand scheme of
> > > > things,
> > > > how can you be trusted for the bigger ones. Believe me, the one
> > thing
> > > > that
> > > > I am learning about our heavenly Father is that he is extremely
> > creative
> > > > in
> > > > the solution department. We often miss it because we get so stuck
in
> > > > thinking that the only solutions available to us are the ones that
we
> > can
> > > > see and we shut the door on His creativity. This is a test. This
is
> > only
> > > > a test. The question is, will you trust Him and wait for His
> > solution
> > and
> > > > timing or will you continue to see with earthly eyes only what is
> > > > possible. Good luck on your adventure. He is faithful. Your task
> > is
> > to
> > > > remain patient and at peace! GRIN!
> > > > Kathy
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > At 05:17 PM 7/18/2005, you wrote:
> > > >>Hi all. As most of you know, i am getting married in november. I
> > found
> > > >>out
> > > >>today from work that they want me to transfer in the beginning of
> > august.
> > > >>I
> > > >>can't tell them i won't transfer then because it is the end of our
> > fiscal
> > > >>year august 31 and i could forfit my job. Problem is though, that
my
> > > >>fiancee and I decided that to save money... if i had to move in
> > september
> > > >>or
> > > >>october we would just live together until the wedding. We both
don't
> > > >>really
> > > >>like the idea but it's like we have no choice. I don't know what
to
> > do.
> > > >>I'm so confused... i don't know what is right and wrong. Both my
> > fiancee
> > > >>and I are born-again Christians, we will in no way have sex before
> > > >>marriage
> > > >>so if we made/make that pledge to god is living together before
> > marriage
> > a
> > > >>sin? Is it wrong? And what do i do if it is? I know of other
> > christian
> > > >>couples who have lived together before marriage. I am just so
> > scattered
> > > >>right now. Please pray for clarity for me? And above all, pray
Gods
> > will
> > > >>be done.
> > > >>I love you all.
> > > >>Jenifer Barr.
> > > >>When the trumpet blows... I'm outta here!
> > > >>AIM: jenibear1998
> > > >>msn
> > > >>[log in to unmask]
> > > >
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