That is true I know when I got saved it had nothing to do with brain but When Jesus came in to my heart.  It was as if a terrible weight wes lifted things were brighter  and I was so happy I was whaling with joy.  Because the weaight and darkness of sin was lifted from me.
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Christ is either Lord of all or he is not Lord at all.
Karen Carter '74



> Hi everyone,
> Here is a scripture that I have never heard ministered on, either in my
> church, or any other.  Let's see what you all think.  From Luke 17-3.
> Take Heed to thyselves; if thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him:
> and if he repent, forgive him;
> In that scripture, it does seem that there has to be some acknowlegement of
> sin.  Now the Lord has taken away our sin, but it does me no good if I have
> never acknoledged the sin in my life.
> For example.  I came to the Lord, or should I really say, the Lord revealed
> himself to me at a point when I was planning the end of my life.   at that
> time, I never acknoledged my sin nature, however, about three months later,
> the Lord showed me the dispicableness of my heart, and the terrible things I
> had done, and then I deeply repented and I knew I was forgiven.  So,
> bretheren, there is a fine line between knowing in your head that you are
> forgiven, and having that ben an actual experiential act that you have
> experienced personally.
> If you ever read stories about the revivals in the past, you will see the
> unmistakable pattern, that without repentance on our part, and the Lord
> coming to the person, there is no change.
> I think the church has sometimes gotten into a wrong concept when they talk
> about accepting Jesus into our hearts.  God always makes the first move, for
> the word says that no man can come to him except the father draws him.  Then
> when we see the Lord, we must repent and be willing to have God do a
> changing work in our hearts as we come to the Lord, asking for forgiveness.
> Anything else becomes an intellectual exercise.  Remember, our encounter
> with Jesus needs to be a life exchange--that is, our old life for His new
> life.
> Vinny
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Phil Scovell" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2005 5:32 PM
> Subject: Re: Something I discovered-forgiveness
>
>
> > Kathy,
> >
> > I don't think we can forget.  We can, on the other hand, forgive, and if
> > there is genuine repentence for the lack of forgiveness on our behalf, the
> > the forgiveness works.  Forgetting is God's job, not ours, because I don't
> > think we can forget.
> >
> > I have at least two times, in the last couple of years, found myself in a
> > situation that I needed to forgive.  In one case, it was multipled, that
> is,
> > there were too many places to try and isolate.  I prayed, asking the Lord
> > what to do, and He said, Forgive them collecti vely and then live as
> though
> > they were forgiven.  Never use those situations against them again.  I
> > prayed and did what He said.
> >
> > In the other case, it was a source of definite eructation.  Money was also
> > involved.  The Lord said, forgive him and never bring it up to him again.
> I
> > did so but in both cases, I haven't forgotten but I did forgive.
> >
> > Phil.
> >