This diversion of part of the left to good old anti-communism
is good old hat--and does great damage to the left
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> To those interested in antiwar issues, a debate is raging on Proyect's
> marxism LIST. The debate centers around the DSP, ISWoR, and the
> Albert ZNet grouping that is calling for ....Russian Hands Off
> Chechnya.....instead of US Hands Off The Caucsus.
>
> Other issues being raised are Saddam/ Iraq, Milosevic/ Kosova, and
> East Timor. Also of issue, is why the antiwar movement is not being
> built internationally.
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> Whether you are pro or con, the experiences of the debating of these
> issues is now being repeated in other, broader and broader circles.
> And just like on some other LISTS, the majority of people seem to have
> the desire that those discussing these issues, would just go and fade
> away.
>
> It's not likely to happen. The issues are too important. Feel
> free to come and participate, whatever your angle is.=A0 Below, is my
> recent post to this list.
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> Tony Abdo
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> Subject: The Silliest Argument of Them All From Recent History
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> There is a rehash going around of a tired and silly argument, made first
> back when the bombing of Yugoslavia started. It goes like
> this......People were so turned off, they refused to particpate in
> antiwar activity, because there were a lot of racist Serbs at the
> rallies......Why were the "racist" Serbs there? (and yes some Serbs are
> racist) This is because of why???
>
> The correct answer is..........? They were there at the rallies
> because the organizers didn't condemn Milosevic!?
> And these beasts turned good, honest citizens away. It made things
> impossible for us to organize the decent citizenry.
>
> This is a ridiculous line of reasoning. Those right wing Serbs would
> have been at the rally, even if every speaker had criticized Milosevic.
> Even if all had carried the sign---No To NATO, No To Mlosevic----
> It's because their homeland was being bombed, not due to some political
> backwardness in the slogans.
>
> What were the organizers supposed to do?... Oh no, go away! You have
> no right to protest here, just because your country is being bombed by
> our alliance.
>
> Would the proponents of the supposedly more correct political line have
> done that? We'll never know, because they made no effort to either
> organize demonstrations, or even to show up at those organized by
> others.
>
> Wait, some of these people did show up, to report back to the main body
> of their camp with horror stories of Serb "atrocities" at the demos.
> These people are not gentlemen like we are, was the general refrain.
>
> Oh yes they are. If your country was being bombed from afar, every
> one of us would demonstrate, along with The Devil, if that's who would
> be our ally. So stop criticizing the organizers of the demos.
> Nothing kept the other political line from organizing demos, other than
> their own lack of desire to do so.
>
> Why organize demonstrations against supporting Albanian nationalism,
> when that's precisely what you are supportng in the war?
>
> Tony Abdo
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