Whadda 'ya expect when you call call a fellow leftist a, "fascist
apologist."???
Stalinist creep;-)
liars and buffoons, contemptible pygmies, pug dogs and puppies, attempting
to mount an elephant...
utterly base scoundrels...
vile creatures
--A. Ya. Vyshinsky at Zinoviev trial
Michael Pugliese
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----- Original Message -----
From: "harry kershner" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 3:29 PM
Subject: [CHOMSKY] Pugliese's stunning rejoinder
> Thought you might like to read Pugliese's response to my last email, which
I thought was going out to the Chomsky group:
>
>
>
> No, I'm a fascist apologist! Fuck you, pal!
> Michael Pugliese
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "harry kershner" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: "Michael Pugliese" <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 1:39 PM
> Subject: Re: Fw: Re: Re: Re: IMHO, You Both Are Wrong (Chris & N&L)
>
>
> > The holocaust could not have occurred without the Treaty of Versailles
and
> acts of imperialism which threw the Germans into the hands of the Nazis.
> There are fascists (and fascist apologists like Pugliese) everywhere, but
> they cannot easily recruit membership except under harsh economic and
social
> conditions. This is so obvious that even a third-rate mind like Pugliese's
> can grasp it, so when he denies its relevance we can see the malevolent
> ideological constructs which underlie that denial.
> >
> > No one I know, and certainly not Chomsky, is eulogizing Islamic
> fundamentalism. In addition to finding and bringing to justice the
> perpetrators of this crime against humanity, we must examine the foreign
and
> investment policies of the US that cause the ease of recruitment in the
Arab
> and Muslim world. Failing this, no military or police actions will protect
> us in the future.
> > --
> >
> > On Fri, 05 Oct 2001 12:01:14
> > Michael Pugliese wrote:
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Harald Beyer-Arnesen" <[log in to unmask]>
> > >To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > >Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 2:49 AM
> > >Subject: AUT: Re: Re: Re: IMHO, You Both Are Wrong (Chris & N&L)
> > >
> > >
> > >> Chris, that Islamism in several aspects is more reactionary than
> > >> U.S. imperialism, as much as it is, in part but only in part, a
> > >> product of it, is just to state the obvious. What needs to be
explained
> > >> is why some many leftist are willing to deny what stares them in
> > >> the eye. Is it ignorance or something more irrational.
> > >>
> > >> The urge to explain _everything_ out from U.S. foreign policy
> > >> becomes pretty "mindless" and religious.
> > >>
> > >> Islamism, fascist to its core, is also very much an expression of a
> high
> > >> degree of irrationality: a poisoneous combine of the worst of an
> Islamic
> > >> past and modern capitalist alienation, as well as imperialist project
> in
> > >> itself.
> > >>
> > >> The failure to come up with a political critique of Islam as such,
and
> > >> silence such critique from revolutionaries from regions where this
> still
> > >> is life and death question, only to put forth a gallery of Imams as
the
> > >> true voices of the working classes in this parts, speaks loud. It is
a
> > >> celebration of silence confronted by anything we might find difficult
> > >> uncomfortable to address.
> > >> I am only awaiting an proclamation declaring that the present
Pope,
> > >> as all the previous, always were true revolutionaries.
> > >>
> > >> One of the greatest failures of the post World War II "left" is the
> lack
> > >> of any real effort to address Rwanda. France was all to blame, were
> > >> they? No other understanding is needed, even if the French were
> > >> not the ones who actually carried out the genocide. It is like saying
> > >> that the Holocaust can all be explained by British imperialism and
> > >> the VersailleTreaty.
> > >>
> > >> The world cannot be reduced to the United States of America.
> > >>
> > >> Harald
>
>
>
>
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