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ken barber <[log in to unmask]>
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Thu, 8 Nov 2007 11:41:37 -0800
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i saw different tatics that i have saw before.
 
1st: all civilize nations have aggreed with your
position. implication nations and people who do not
are "uncivilized." intimidation tactic since no one
wants to be seen as "uncivilized."

2. we bring up spanking or corprell punishment and
themn we start siting studies on sexual abuse and on
"brutalizing children. 
 no one would want to support sexually abusing
children or bruatalizing children. impress some,
intimidate the rest. 

but here comes someone with brass enough to say
studies on sexual abuse are not relavant to average
parents spanking a average kid nor a average school
teacher "applying the board of education to the seat
of learning" nor studies of brualizing children being
relavant to the average spanking or paddling.  it
sorta neutralize the tactics. 

how should it be read linda? 

 
--- Linda Walker <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> It does not sound like you read it.
> 
> At 07:06 PM 11/7/2007, you wrote:
> >spanking and sexual abuse are not =. spanking and
> >brutalizing are not =. so your studies quoting is
> >apples to oranges. sorry it don't sell here.
> >
> >--- Linda Walker <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >
> > > That was a good school experience and mine was
> > > similar altho it was
> > > in  a city and altho my family did not have much
> > > money most of the
> > > kids were from well heeled families. I think
> because
> > > of my age (62)
> > > there were no discipline problems either. We
> were
> > > taught and we
> > > learned. To my knowledge no one was ever spanked
> or
> > > paddled.
> > > Studies show paddling is bad for a child's self
> > > esteem and I agree
> > > with www.nospank.org  that passing laws against
> it
> > > are best. Most
> > > civilized countries have done so, the US has
> not. A
> > > highlight of my
> > > life was giving an address in NY that Alice
> Miller
> > > was supposed to
> > > give but she could not make it in from
> Switzerland.
> > > She is considered
> > > the worlds foremost child psychologist, one of
> the
> > > first to deal with
> > > children's issues.
> > > I've worked cases in states where spanking is
> > > allowed and they killed
> > > a kid years ago, and covered it up, others were
> > > brutally beaten.
> > > Studies also show  that the brain develops
> > > differently when kids are
> > > brutalized at home or in school or sexually
> abused.
> > > Physical and
> > > sexual violence towards children often goes hand
> in
> > > hand. So if you
> > > teach corporal punishment is wrong it sets a
> > > different standard, a
> > > humane and compassionate one.
> > > And check out Moses Lake WA if you think rural
> kids
> > > live good
> > > citizenship cause I've worked cases where the
> murder
> > > rate (kid on kid
> > > and adult to kid) in rural areas is off the
> charts.
> > > Many murders in
> > > farm areas are covered up as farm accidents or
> > > simply accepted by
> > > authorities as accidents when they are not. We
> are
> > > documenting these
> > > in polygamy for instance. I guarantee you a lot
> of
> > > those East
> > > European and Appalachian kids you went to school
> > > with were being
> > > brutalized at home. it is simply a well covered
> up
> > > phenomenon.
> > >
> > > At 02:52 AM 11/2/2007, you wrote:
> > > >I would be willing to put MY next paycheck on a
> bet
> > > that Linda
> > > >McCauley's district probably received fewer
> dollars
> > > pe
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