this kind of stuff is no surprise to anybody anymore. this is the reason that the networks are losing ratings, this is why newspapers and "news" magazines are losing circulation. they are not to be believed. the alternative media is growing tremendously because the old media is agenda driven and people more and more know they can not believe them. 


--- On Fri, 7/25/08, Cleveland, Kyle E. <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> From: Cleveland, Kyle E. <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: I heard it with my own two ears!
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Date: Friday, July 25, 2008, 8:51 AM
> Yesterday, my wife, Laura, and I were invited to attend a
> Presidential
> "town hall" meeting at the Ohio State University.
>  The event was
> sponsored by Lance Armstrong and his 'Lance
> Armstrong' and 'LiveStrong'
> Foundations, which fund and support cancer patient/survivor
> support
> programs.  Laura, a cancer survivor, is also a
> "clinical trials patient
> advocate" and helps patients and their families
> navigate through the
> process of being selected for, and participating in, cancer
> drug
> clinical trials.  LAF was at Ohio State to help Laura and
> other
> advocates recruit and train 1,000 new advocates from across
> the country.
> 
>  
> 
> Both presidential candidates were invited, but  Sen. Obama
> was in Europe
> and obviously couldn't be in attendance.  The event was
> hosted by Mr.
> Armstrong and former CNN News anchor Paula Zahn-who both
> posed questions
> to Sen. McCain.  The senator spoke candidly about his
> struggle to quit
> smoking a couple decades back and his own personal fears
> after being
> diagnosed with melanoma (without TV makeup you can see the
> surgical
> scars on his face).  Sen. McCain spoke passionately about
> the 48 states
> attorneys general that successfully sued and reached
> settlement against
> the US tobacco companies and his frustration that NONE of
> the funds
> received by these states was used for tobacco use cessation
> programs,
> instead going into the states' general funds.  He also
> expressed dismay
> that tobacco legislation that he had helped introduce was
> defeated by
> his colleagues in the House and Senate who appeared to be
> beholden to
> tobacco companies.  He also talked about the marketing
> efforts that US
> tobacco companies are engaged in overseas in developing
> countries.  Mr.
> Armstrong agreed and noted that the World Health
> Organization (WHO)
> anticipates there will be ONE BILLION deaths in China in
> the 21st
> century related directly to tobacco use.
> 
>  
> 
> Ms. Zahn then asked the senator if he would support
> increasing taxes on
> tobacco products as a method of curtailing tobacco use. 
> After some
> thought, the senator said that he probably would not unless
> he could get
> some hard assurance that those funds would be used as
> earmarked-for
> tobacco use cessation.   Ms. Zahn then pressed the senator
> and asked him
> if he would support increased taxation if he knew the funds
> would be
> spent appropriately.  He indicated that he would.
> 
>  
> 
> This morning I read Marc Ambinder's account of the
> exchange.  He is the
> associate editor of Atlantic magazine.  He wrote,
> "[McCain said] It
> would have to be proved [that the tax revenue would be
> spent
> appropriately]. I don't think it's in the
> constitution of this
> Congress." He hastened to add, 'By the way,
> I'm not for anybody's
> taxes.' He later implied that raising the cigarette tax
> would lead to
> more smoking as a way of explaining his decision not to
> support a
> Democratic attempt to use a tax hike to pay for more
> children's health
> insurance. McCain said he would sign legislation
> establishing the FDA's
> authority to regulate tobacco."
> 
>  
> 
> I was there!  McCain DID NOT say, "By the way, I'm
> not for anybody's
> taxes."  He NEVER "implied that raising the
> cigarette tax would lead to
> more smoking as a way of explaining his decision not to
> support a
> Democratic attempt to use a tax hike to pay for more
> children's health
> insurance."  The two were never juxtaposed in any of
> the conversations
> between the three participants.  I don't know where Mr.
> Ambinder was
> during this event (out smoking a cigarette, possibly?), but
> he sure
> didn't hear what I heard!  I don't care if
> you're Republican or
> Democrat, Liberal or Conservative, this sort of
> "agenda driven"
> journalism is disgusting!  How can these folks live with
> themselves?
> You hear both parties complain that the media treats them
> unfairly-by
> what I heard yesterday and read this morning, they have a
> point.
> 
>  
> 
> I've been involved with very few events that were
> covered by national
> media, but I've been intimately involved with several
> local news stories
> over the years and I'm always amazed that the media
> coverage has never
> presented the "facts" with 100%
> accuracy-particularly from television
> news, but it's endemic across all local media.  You
> would think that
> national news outlets would hold themselves to a higher
> standard of
> truth, but that's apparently not the case.
> 
>  
> 
> We're reaping the fruit of what we've sown: 
> "Truth" is no longer
> objective in the west.  "Your 'truth' may not
> be my 'truth'", and, "we
> create our own reality" are common refrains coming out
> of journalism
> schools these days.  That, is a sad truth.
> 
>  
> 
> Kyle
> 
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