Likely salute in farewell to the Over-Sixty crowd.

To a better world!  LOL

Easter?  Betty's being optimistic.

ISM, CCP
"Depravity Defies Gravity"

----- Original Message -----
From: "Betty B" <[log in to unmask]>
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.c-palsy
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2001 12:32 AM
Subject: Re: Do we have a duty to die?


> It's just so easy to target disabled people, isn't it?  We are a lazy
> thinking society, and for the most part, never look below the surface
to find
> the real answers.  This person immediately thought that the quick fix
was two
> kill two little girls.
>
> When Independence Day rolls around, this person will fly his flag the
> highest, watch the fireworks, and talk about how great it is to be an
> American, and how it's great that everybody here has all the liberties
(One
> nation, under God, quite divisible, with liberty and justice for
some).
>
> I hope that history doesn't repeat itself Joanne, but I believe that
most of
> the elements exist now for that to happen.  Truly, I believe that in
fifty to
> seventy-five years, your counterparts will be pushed by the medical
> community, not just not to save their Alex's life, but to euthanize
him.
> This will all be perfectly legal, and nobody will bat an eye.
>
> The Peter Singers and Harold Shapiros are going to win, and the
majority of
> us are going to let them.
>
> Betty
>
> In a message dated 04/13/2001 11:39:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> [log in to unmask] writes:
>
> > Betty, You are better be glad I don't visit that message
> >  board!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. I once had a very heated discussion along
these same
> >  lines with a researcher/author who "specialty" is premature
children. This
> >  person had the nerve to post a letter by a neotologist who claimed
,much
> >  along the lines of  your poster , that the extremely premature/
> >  micropreemies should not even be given the chance to life because
their
> >  medical care ticket price is so high and can better used in other
> >  ays( Inoculations of 3rd world countries seem to be a key selling
point).
> My
> >  answer. My son fit all the criteria to not be saved. When he had
the
> >  respiratory/cardiac arrest when he was 3 weeks old and up to the
2# range,
> >  his doctors strongly urged us to let Alex go because he was sure to
have
> >  MR/high degree of physical disabilities. Obviously we choose to
continue
> the
> >  fight and Alex was won. His bill for 11 weeks of NICU was 3/4 of a
million
> >  dollars. My reply to your poster as well as my "expert" who posted
was
> >  simply this. Private medical insurance paid that bill. No matter
how you
> >  want to tug heartstrings with those kids in underdeveloped
countries, even
> >  if we had chosen to let Alex go, none of the money saved could be
used by
> >  the 3rd world population. It is ours to use for our family only. A
request
> >  to donate "saved" money from denying my child treatment still
wouldn't go
> to
> >  another country or anyone else and I can already hear the insurance
> >  companies laughing hysterically at such a request. In the case of
public
> >  funds being used, the same principal hold even more true,
especially with
> >  bureaucratic red-tape, the fund can only be used for a certain
purpose and
> >  if 3rd world immunizations isn't on the list of approved uses, even
letting
> >  high maintance kids die won't release that money for immuzations
elsewhere.
> >  It will simply go to another high risk kid.Alex also has a good
life. Warm
> >  shelter, food as he desires adequate clothes, access to  education,
and
> >  obviously good medical care. Even with multiple disabilities his
life is
> >  much better off than the children in underdeveloped countries and
giving
> >  them a bunch of immunizations isn't going to change their
lifestyles.
> >   If by chance, immunizations became available to everyone in the
third
> >  world just for the asking, there' no guarantee anyone will ask.
Here in the
> >  good old USA there is a federal program that provides
un/underinsured
> >  children access to immunization and basic well child visits called
CHIP
> >   Children's Health Insurance Plan). There are frequent pleas in our
local
> >  paper for families to sign up because only about 1/4 of those who
qualify
> >  bother apply. Many parents refuse the inoculations for religious as
well as
> >  health reasons. If the children of America are underimmunized all
the money
> >  in the world won't get even less developed countries a higher
immunization
> >  record. Saying all that Alex  and the conjoined twins have just as
much
> >  right to life ( or at least be given a chance to have a life) as
any child
> >  anywhere.
> >  Joanne
>
>
> Betty
> aut viam inveniam aut faciam
> "I will either find a way or make one."