actually if not for pain, i'd not mind it that much,
but i have always been frustrated when i actually knew
what to do, but could not get my arms and hands to do
it. made me learn not to be so proud that i could not
ask for help.

--- Michael Collis <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Every person born on this planet has a disability,
> or something which
> limits them,  For most, society (not self) is the
> biggest disabler, in
> that stairs get in the way, curb cuts are
> non-existent, and attitudes
> are patronizing...  Seen in this way, the healing
> stories of the Bible
> (both Old and New Testaments)  strike a subversive
> blow for people with
> disabilities    G-d is saying that society is wrong
> to place value on
> physical attributes.  Because society does, He will
> heal the outcasts,
> not society.
>
> If you did not have the pain, Ken, would you mind
> the C.P?
>
> ken barber wrote:
>
> > 0kay, sorry if i spoke for every one. you do have
> the
> >right to want to have a disability. it is something
> >that i live with. i accept that, but, i do not like
> >the pain and i do not chose to be in pain.
> >
> >--- Karin DiNardi <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>No all of us WOULD NOT take a cure, we ARE ABLE TO
> >>LIVE NORMAL LIVES NOW!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>From: ken barber <[log in to unmask]>
> >>>Reply-To: "St. John's University Cerebral Palsy
> >>>
> >>>
> >>List"
> >>
> >>
> >>><[log in to unmask]>
> >>>To: [log in to unmask]
> >>>Subject: Re: Cure??
> >>>Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 19:09:44 -0700
> >>>
> >>>well, yes, all of us would take a cure if it were
> >>>avaible, but, cp is a injury not a virus,
> bacteria,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>or
> >>
> >>
> >>>even an infection.
> >>>  there is not even a blip on the screen in the
> >>>
> >>>
> >>way of
> >>
> >>
> >>>a cure. if they can get the brain to regenerate
> >>>
> >>>
> >>itself
> >>>from the injury, then with theropy. of course it
> >>would
> >>
> >>
> >>>help stroke victims, accident victims, etc. just
> as
> >>>much as cp. right now a cure for this is science
> >>>fiction. next best thing though is to accept it
> and
> >>>
> >>>
> >>do
> >>
> >>
> >>>the best you can. once you do the best you can,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>then
> >>
> >>
> >>>you can be proud of yourself. that is not science
> >>>fiction.
> >>>
> >>>--- kat <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>You know, I had the same reaction he did when I
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>saw
> >>
> >>
> >>>>your one-lineer.
> >>>>
> >>>>Yes, it's good to accept yourself as disabled.
> >>>>
> >>>>However, I see myself as a person and a woman
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>first,
> >>
> >>
> >>>>not disabled first.  Yeah
> >>>>it's a part of who I am but it's not what I am.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>I
> >>
> >>
> >>>>refuse to let it define
> >>>>me. and I refuse to let others define me as
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>such.
> >>
> >>
> >>>>Kat
> >>>>
> >>>>On Wednesday 22 October 2003 09:53 pm, you
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>Why not Brent? I would choose to remain
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>disabled.
> >>
> >>
> >>>> It's part of the
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>diversity of life. Ablism demands we all sound
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>the
> >>
> >>
> >>>>same, act the same,
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>and get around the same    I had my eyes
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>opened by
> >>
> >>
> >>>>reading advocacy books..
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>Brent Edwards wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>Karin DiNardi wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>We don't want a cure, be proud of who you
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>are!
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>>Ummm...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>I may be misunderstanding you. Actually I
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>hope I
> >>
> >>
> >>>>am. Of course CP is not a
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>"disease" so there will never be a "cure",
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>but
> >>
> >>
> >>>>you mean that if somehow
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>you _could_ become AB, you would choose to
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>remain disabled??
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>I accepted who I am and what my limitations
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>are
> >>
>
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