On Wednesday 31 December 2008 01:46:05 Tamar Raine wrote:
> the news here says 384 gaza people killed and 1,500 injured, many of them
> children. 
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Mag,

Your figures are about right. My figure (of 62) was the number of "proveable" 
civilians (i.e. chiefly children under 14 who cannot possibly 
be "terrorists" - so are innocents).

Cheers

Deri

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> Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 5:32:48 PM
> Subject: Re: Hello is there any budy out there?
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> On Tuesday 30 December 2008 21:40:54 Meir Weiss wrote:
> > Hamas is terrorists
>
> Hamas is a loose confederation of groups with widely different agendas and
> imperfect central control. Much like Israel which has powerful
> fundamentalist factions which are not controlled by central government.
>
> >  these so called palistinians?
>
> No. They are called Palestinians (because they have lived in and around
> Palestine for centuries).
>
> > We KNOW they are egyptians in liniage
>
> !!! I'm a Celt.
>
> > Innocent persons
>
> Precisely, they are being killed. So far 4 Israelis and a minimum of 62
> Palestinian civilians.
>
> >  I apologize in advance
> >
> > If one supports hamas?
>
> I believe you can (and should) condemn Israeli action without supporting
> the more extremist views of Hamas.
>
> > You are a terrorist people with a sole goal to wipe israel off the map
>
> To some in Hamas, this seems the only way to stop Israels cruel oppression,
> I don't, I see it as our duty to urge our governments to rein in the
> excesses of Israel.
>
> > Like hitler.
>
> Huh! Israel, as a separate nation state, did not exist at the time of
> Hitler!!
>
> > I can't manufacture sympathy for hamas et al
> >
> > They themselves are their OWN  worst enemy within themselves.
> >
> > Sorry
> >
> > They broke the cease fire early
>
> Both sides broke the ceasefire, the current fracas was instigated by
> Israeli action.
>
> > They NEVER stopped the terrorism DURING  said cease fire
>
> (But it was drastically reduced, despite Israel continuing an inhumane
> blockade, continuing walling in areas to produce almost ghetto like
> conditions, continuing diverting water courses to deprive Palestinians of
> the basic necessity for life).
>
> > It is them or me
>
> Can't it be you AND them? Has only 1 side the right to live?
>
> Cheers (and World Peace)
>
> Deri
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