What's the pro-life movement ?





----- Original Message -----
From: Barber, Kenneth L. <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 1999 5:29 AM
Subject: Re: Introduction and "friend" Singer


> guy, this is one of the things that the pro-life movement predicted years
> ago. what ever you believe about abortion it was just a start of
disrespect
> for human life.
>    i do not wish to start nor will i get into a long debate, but, my 2
cents
> worth.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bobby Greer [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Monday, September 06, 1999 12:43 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Introduction and "friend" Singer
>
>
> >In a message dated 09/05/1999 1:50:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> >[log in to unmask] writes:
> >
> ><<  I am afraid your are correct re: the direction of bioethics toward
> > eugenics(a politically correct term for "population pruning"). Peter
> Singer
> > is the tip of the iceberg.
> >
> > Bobby
> >  >>
> >
> >Yes Bobby, I'm afraid I am right too, although I'd dearly love to be
wrong.
> >I've been searching through the Princeton website, and the deeper I dig,
> the
> >more concerned I become.  They are serious about bioethics at that
> >University, and serious about making policy.  It's interesting to note
that
> >Princeton's president, Dr. Harold Shapiro, is also the Chairman for the
> >National Bioethics Advisory Commission.  This appointment of Dr. Singer
was
> >no fluke.  They have the only undergraduate bioethics society in the US
> too,
> >and the outline for one of the bioethics classes includes such
discussions
> as
> >"what is the definition of a human."  Dr. Singer has defined that, and as
> you
> >already know, it doesn't include all of us.  A requirement that counts
for
> >20% of the class grade involves conducting community surveys, and helping
> in
> >the community with bioethics education.  The list of groups they can
select
> >from to accomplish this task goes from a preschool all the way up to high
> >school, as well as a Planned Parenthood group.  They can select other
> groups
> >as well, with the permission of their professor.  With regard to
conducting
> >surveys, they are instructed to be mindful of bias.  That is how the
> >scientific community would view the informed perspective of a person with
a
> >disability.  Bias is indeed a valid factor to take into account, but I
> >believe it would be morally corrupt to term our perspective of our value
to
> >society as "bias."  This is a reach.  I'm address how they would consider
> our
> >views if they were to include us in surveys about utilitarian bioethics.
> >
> Betty,
>
>         This is real scary. When someone proffers a definition of "human"
> which does not include all living humans, this is the beginning of
> de-humanization, the first step toward genocide. The Nazi's used it and we
> used it in Viet Nam.
>
> Watch out. That this is all coming out of the second, or third, most
> prestigious school in the nation is terrifying.
>
> Bobby
>