Oh my gosh, Bobby.  I am so sorry. Please pass my condolences to Joyce.
I'll be praying for your family and their safety as they journey to
Colorado.

-Kyle

-----Original Message-----
From: Bobby Greer [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Thursday, December 09, 1999 2:19 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: To Kyle


It's my wife's sister. There are two sets of twin girls. Joyce(my wife) is
one of the older twins and the sister who died is one of the younger twins.
Both of the younger twins live in Pueblo, Co. and were very close as you
can imagine. The surviving twin lost her adult daughter four years ago and
has heart and respiratory problems. Her prognosis does appear positive, but
maybe God knows
something I don't. I pray so.

Bobby


>Isn't that almost always the case, that it takes a death to bring families
>physically together in our modern, Western culture?  Fortunately for Laura,
>her family all lived locally and saw each other on a regular basis.  Still,
>it's going to be strange not going to "Grandma's" house for the holidays.
>
>Was this your brother's wife or your wife's sister?
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Bobby Greer [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>Sent: Thursday, December 09, 1999 1:27 PM
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: To Kyle
>
>
>Kyle,
>
>        So sorry to hear about Laura's grandmother. As it turns out it
>looks like we will all be together(Colorado kin & our kids and grandkids).
>It's so sad
>the it takes something like this to get together.
>
>Bobby
>
>
>So sorry, Bobby.  We buried Laura's grandmother over the weekend.  I'm with
>>you on the funerals.
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Bobby Greer [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>>Sent: Thursday, December 09, 1999 10:16 AM
>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>Subject: Re: Talking to adults about disabilities
>>
>>
>>The world would be better off, it we all remained unbiased like small
>>children. We were just informed my sister-in-law died last night from the
>>effects of alcoholism, so we're preparing to fly to Colorado for the
>>services.
>>There is nothing a detest and fear more than funerals!!!
>>
>>Bobby
>>
>>
>>
>>>Yeah, I've had the same experience with Native American shamans.  Go
>>>figure....
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Michael H. Collis [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>>>Sent: Thursday, December 09, 1999 10:27 AM
>>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>>Subject: Re: Talking to adults about disabilities
>>>
>>>
>>>The same goes for some Christians, Betty!  I avoid some churches like
>>>the plague, because whenever I go, there are always a few people who
>>>want to lay their hands on me and pray that my body be delivered from
>>>the "curse" of C.P., while I'm praying that their eyes might be opened
>>>to see that society makes the disability a liability, not the person
>>>with the disability. :D
>>>Mike
>>>
>>>Betty Alfred wrote:
>>>> I call them "snake oil" salesmen Kathy.  I get this all the time.  It's
>>>> practically destroyed some old friendships, and relationships with some
>>>> relatives.  As soon as they found out I had a neurological impairment,
>>>they
>>>> decided that they would throw every vitamin regimen and mountain man
>cure
>>>at
>>>> me they could think of.  I avoid some of them like the plague now,
>>because
>>>> they won't let up.  Every encounter is their open door to "practice
>>>> medicine."
>>>>
>>>> I don't know why, but I figured if you had a disability that has always
>>>been
>>>> a part of you, that people would consider it sacred territory and leave
>>>you
>>>> alone.  I didn't think they hit on people with CP too.  I guess I have
a
>>>lot
>>>> to learn.
>>>>
>>>> Betty