I wish you could find those stats. They would be interesting. The
former gov of Utah Leavitt is Bush's head of health and human
services. Romney, Hatch and nearly all politicians who are Mormon
hail from polygamy. Why? Because it was practiced by the hierarchy
and the people chosen for positions today still come from that
milieu. The AG is Mormon. A good guy but still answering to a church
that regularly influences the public debate in ways I disagree with.
At 01:22 PM 9/7/2006, you wrote:
>Quite possibly; my point is that the LDS majority in Utah has been
>decreasing since 1989, and is projected to continue to do so; therefore,
>it's status as a "Mormon State" is not something that is a "given." I
>came across the chart when I was looking for solid data on LDS members
>in Utah State government, which I was unfortunately, unable to find. =20
>
>Another link I sent showed Utah to have low infant mortality rates,
>relatively high birth rates within intact families (among the top 5 in
>the US), as well as higher numbers of intact families in general. So if
>the number of LDS church members is decreasing in Utah, it must be due,
>at least in part to in-migration, or people leaving church membership
>rolls. I do think that a fairly large number of people that leave the
>LDS church, for whatever reason, remain "culturally Mormon" (At least
>until they can't take any more green Jell-o or "funeral potatoes."
>;-{)}
>
>Kendall=20
>
>An unreasonable man (but my wife says that's redundant!)
>
>The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one
>persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all
>progress depends on the unreasonable man.
>
>-George Bernard Shaw 1856-1950
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Kathleen Salkin [mailto:[log in to unmask]]=20
>Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 4:06 PM
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: [C-PALSY] Polygamy Story a rant
>
>Don't you think those decreasing numbers could be explained by the =20
>influx of new residents?
>
>Kat
>
>
>On 7 Sep 2006, at 19:03, Kendall David Corbett wrote:
>
>Interesting charts on Utah demographic shifts from 1989 to 2004.
>
>http://extras.mnginteractive.com/live/media/site297/2005/0726/20050726_1
>01404_DTTTRB24A10.PDF
>
>
>
>Kendall
>
>An unreasonable man (but my wife says that's redundant!)
>
>The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one
>persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all
>progress depends on the unreasonable man.
>
>-George Bernard Shaw 1856-1950
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Kathleen Salkin [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 2:01 PM
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: [C-PALSY] Polygamy Story a rant
>
>You know ... this is all very interesting to me because whilst I'm
>quite liberal and believe that anyone has got the freedom to worship
>as they please, I also believe that you must heed the dictum that no
>harm should befall others. But as an American, I also advidly
>believe in the Bill of Rights which guarantee the freedom of religion
>to all Americans, and I also believe in the separation between church
>and state.
>
>So where do we draw the line? Polygamy by consenting adults
>theoretically should be OK (that is, if you go by the Bill of Rights)
>and the government shouldn't have the right to interfere. On the
>other hand, the ethical scientific side of me cringes because of the
>higher possibility of genetic abnormalties and the higher risk of
>miscarriages, not to mention that if you try to limit the
>participation to a small group of people, practically speaking, you
>would run out of age-eligible wives fairly quickly - and thus that's
>probably the main reason so much polygamous activity is underaged.
>If you do the maths, this is obvious.
>
>In any case, our society does not support such a structure which is
>good - but this does make for interesting discussions such as the one
>I had with David last night on this subject!
>
>Kat
>
>
>On 7 Sep 2006, at 16:46, Kendall David Corbett wrote:
>
>Mike,
>
><cut for brevity, to spare other's inboxes! ;) )
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