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"Barber, Kenneth L." <[log in to unmask]>
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i think it was one of the tree muscateers, kyle, bobby or ism. , but i could
be wrong. i was once wrong back in the 1980's. i thought i'd made a mistake,
but, turned out to be right.

lol, it's too early for this kind of humor.

-----Original Message-----
From: Betty B [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 3:06 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Our Future (WAS:democratic pregnancy)


I'm so confused that I don't know who said this, but the most definitive
statement about our current situation is contained herein:

"Inclusion is BS when the rubber meets the road."

I'll be damned if that doesn't say it all.  In fact, in looking at that
statement, I feel as though I already am!

Can someone please straighten me out on who said this thing?  I would like
to
give credit where credit is due, and quote this person in the future.

Betty

In a message dated 11/29/2000 4:50:07 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[log in to unmask] writes:

>
>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: Vince Montgomery [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>  Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2000 4:03 PM
>  To: [log in to unmask]
>  Subject: Our Future (WAS:democratic pregnancy)
>
>
>  Hey,
>
>  >I agree, Kyle. It has nothing to do with one's theology. If our >society
>  >ever goes into  a hyper "survival of the fittest" mode, we could be in
>  >trouble.
>
>  So much for enlightenment.  Are we all to be doomed by some outdated
>  Darwinian notion?
>
>          Yep!
>
>  I sure as heck hope not!   I have a documentary on tape
>  about a group of disabled folk gathering to go to an "Ability Expo" type
>  thing.  It's probably about 12 years old now.  However, I recall
"Survival
>  Of The Fittest"  interpreted to mean 'ability to adapt.' This I like, if
>  only to help us recognize one of our own values as a people.
>
>          Vince, Vince, Vince!  Don't you get it?  Western society does not
>  value people.  It values tangibles such as youth, beauty, strength.
Sure,
>  it (society) likes to think of itself as inclusive, ecumenical and
>  post-modern, but culture is driving society, not the other way.  As long
as
>  westerners (who comprise 5% of the globe) control the world's executive
>  ideologies, gimps like you and I will be persona non grata (a tacit
>  understanding, of course).  :>O
>
>  Inclusion is BS when the rubber meets the road.  As far as 'ability to
>  adapt', well, look at it this way:  A chair-bound quad is dependent on
that
>  able-bodied carpenter to build his ramp.  Without that ramp, there is no
>  adaptation for our disabled friend.
>
>  Ah...post-modernism.  Ain't it great?  Wish our friend Logan (from
Canada,
>  remember?) were still here.  "PM"...now THAT'S the opiate of the masses!
>
>  -Kyle
>
>  >Bobby
>
>  Happy Belated B-Day!
>
>  Vince
>


Betty
aut viam inveniam aut faciam
"I will either find a way or make one."

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