Hi Kyle,

  Haven't hear from you and was looking forward to your e-mail.

                                Trisha


> > Trisha-
> >=20
> > I'll respond in depth later this weekend when I have more time, but =
> no, I'm
> > speaking of what one of the authors in you link referred to as =
> "Pauline"
> > Christians--at least during that timeframe.  The Gnostics were later =
> down
> > the line.
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> > I think the authors raise a red herring about the schisms in the first
> > century church, but I'll address that in detail later--and I promise I =
> won't
> > use someone else's opinion to support my own.  Since I profess the =
> Bible to
> > be true, it would be hypocritical of me to rest my assertions on the
> > scholarly work of another.  I think the "law and the prophets" and the =
> other
> > writings found in what we call the "bible" are strong enough to stand =
> on
> > their own without a Rabbi, Priest or Theo Ph.D. telling us what it all
> > means.
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> > Kyle
> >=20
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Trisha Cummings [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 1:50 PM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: religion and politics (long-ish); was RE: Brother in Law
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> >=20
> > Hi Kyle,
> >=20
> >    The ancient Eypytians are more the contemporaries of the Jews in =
> the
> > beginning. As are the Babylonians and such - these civilzations =
> pre-date
> > writing, also pre-date The Greeks and Romans. The Romans are =
> contemporaries
> > of the early Christians. I am talking about the 3 "in the Beginning =
> stories"
> > foround in the Bible. These existed before the writing time - when =
> they sat
> > around the fires and handed down the stories.
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> > I think maybe we are both talking about the early Gnostic Christians - =
> here
> > a link to that.
> > =
> http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/religion/first/diversity.ht=
> ml
> >=20
> > The early Christians were against war -
> > http://www.users.voicenet.com/~kuenning/qhp/dymond.html
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> > We don't need to change each others minds - I am speaking of centuries
> > before the ones you are. Christianity has its roots in the Jewish =
> past. They
> > go back before writting. Lets face it the oldest real religious =
> artifacts go
> > back 9,000 years ago, and they are Pagan and we conjecture about it -
> > becasue no one survives and they had no writing. The very roots of =
> ancient
> > Jews - are also lost - what we have is what has survived thru oral =
> tradition
> > until we had writing.
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> > I am sorry you are not doing well. I will think really good thoughts
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> >                                  Trisha