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ken barber <[log in to unmask]>
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St. John's University Cerebral Palsy List
Date:
Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:06:13 -0800
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moot question. last nights hearing ended the same as
the others. i was a little suprised that the same
judge in tampa allowed another hearing.

--- STEVEN FILLINICH <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> AT THIS STAGE I FEEL MISS SCHIAVO SHOULD HAVE THE
> RIGHT TO DIE, IF HER TUBES WERE WERE PUT IN WHAT
> WOULD BE THE PROBABILITY OF HER GETTTING WELL?
>
> ken barber <[log in to unmask]> wrote:it is my
> understanding that yet another hearing was
> being done by the federal distric court in tampa on
> this "new opinion."
> if i hear anything else, i'll let you guys know.
>
> --- Kendall David Corbett wrote:
>
> > Mayo Clinic statement on Dr. William Cheshire's
> > involvement in the
> > Schiavo case and with the Florida Department of
> > Children and Families:
> >
> > >Mayo Clinic in Jacksonville
> >
> > >Wednesday, March 23, 2005
> >
> > >Comment on Dr. William Cheshire's involvement
> with
> > Department of
> > Children >and Families
> >
> > >Dr. William Cheshire was asked by the Florida
> > Department of Children
> > and >Families to share his expertise related to
> > potentially vulnerable
> > adults. >As part of this commitment, he was asked
> to
> > render his
> > professional opinion >for the state of Florida in
> > the case of Terri
> > Schiavo. He observed the >patient at her bedside
> and
> > conducted a review
> > of her medical history but >did not conduct an
> > examination.
> >
> > >Mayo Clinic recognizes that the standard of care
> > for the evaluation of
> > a >comatose patient includes a detailed review of
> > the patient's history
> > and >previous evaluations as well as the
> performance
> > of a comprehensive
> > >neurological examination. In some instances,
> > electrophysiological and
> > >imaging studies may be used to establish a
> > diagnosis.
> >
> > >The views expressed by Dr. Cheshire in the case
> of
> > Terri Schiavo do not
> > >represent the opinion of the Mayo Clinic or its
> > Departments of
> > Neurology. >The Mayo Clinic Departments of
> Neurology
> > do not have
> > opinions regarding the >diagnosis of Terri Schiavo
> > because they have not
> > performed an evaluation as >described above.
> >
> > Kendall Corbett
> >
> > An unreasonable man (but my wife says that's
> > redundant!)
> >
> > The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
> the
> > unreasonable one
> > persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
> > Therefore, all
> > progress depends on the unreasonable man.
> > -George Bernard Shaw 1856-1950
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ken barber [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 6:25 PM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: Terri Schiavo redux from Inclusion
> > Daily Express
> >
> > anyway, who knows what to believe. i saw 4 nurses
> > and
> > two doctors interviewd. all swown in on this case.
> > the
> > nurses had all taken care of her at some time both
> > doctors had examined her. 2 nurses and 1 doc said
> > she
> > was vegestavie, and 2 nurses and one doc said she
> > was
> > not. i guess i do not have to decide who to
> believe,
> > it is not going to make any difference who i
> believe
> > anyway.
> >
> > --- Kendall David Corbett wrote:
> >
> > > I don't know if George Felos (Michael Schiavo's
> > > attorney) raised the
> > > issue in response to the appeals. Without the
> > issue
> > > being raised, the
> > > justices may have felt that it was not an
> > > appropriate issue to address.
> > >
> > > Kendall Corbett
> > >
> > > An unreasonable man (but my wife says that's
> > > redundant!)
> > >
> > > The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
> > the
> > > unreasonable one
> > > persists in trying to adapt the world to
> himself.
> > > Therefore, all
> > > progress depends on the unreasonable man.
> > > -George Bernard Shaw 1856-1950
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: ken barber [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 5:53 PM
> > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > Subject: Re: Terri Schiavo redux from Inclusion
> > > Daily Express
> > >
> > > yes, it will. and since this was not addressed
> in
> > > any
> > > of the decisions, it is hanging out there that
> > > whether
> > > this is really a appropreiate use of article 3
> > > powers.
> > > one of these federal judges should have at least
> > > mentioned it. but it was just left out there.
> > >
> > > --- Bobby Greer wrote:
> > > > Ken, Kat, Beth et al,
> > > >
> > > > I have mixed emotions about the Schaivo
> > case.
> > > > What I do not understand
> > > > is the US Congress enntering the fray. That
> will
> > > set
> > > > precedence for years to
> > > > come!
> > > > This is a sad case of both sides of the
> > family
> > > > digging in and competing
> > > > for control. I heard this week before her
> > > > heart attack she was bulimic which tellls me
> > alot
> > > > about her family dynamics.
> > > > I will not go into it since my view is
> > > theoretical.
> > > > Let's just say it
> > > > explains to me the guilt feelings of her
> > parents.
> > > As
> > > > for drs. disagreeing,
> > > > they do that every day.
> > > >
> > > > Bobby
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "ken barber"
> > > > Newsgroups: bit.listserv.c-palsy
> > > > To:
> > > > Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 7:42 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: Terri Schiavo redux from
> Inclusion
> > > > Daily Express
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > well, mag. i agree. but, then the conscince
> is
> > > > > pricked, becouse they are actually doing the
> > > > killing.
> > > > > they think they are "just letting her die."
> if
> > > > they
> > > > > starve her. no difference actually.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- Tamar Raine
> > wrote:
> > > > > > Many people do not consider feeding tubes
> to
> > > be
> > > > > > artificial means. I have
> > > > > > met a few adults with cp who ate that way.
> > > It's
> > > > just
> > > > > > an alternate means of
> > > > > > feeding. I agree however that Terri should
> > die
> > > > in
>
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