the trials will determine what is done to them. your
remarks about the not being proven killers ignores who
they are and where and how they were captured. but
they are going to get trials that will not ignore
these things.
--- Kathleen Salkin <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> So, do you propose to keep them there forever until
> they die? They
> are POWs, not proven killers. I can't think of any
> Americans being
> imprisoned for life without trial that wouldn't
> raise a stink. I can
> also say that by imprisoning these men without trial
> or a fair
> hearing, we have done damage to our reputation as a
> fair and just
> nation - I agree we should have arrested the
> terrorists but we
> should have put them on trial. We did it for the
> Germans after WWII
> - why not do the same for them?
>
> I know - the Islamists don't have trials - they just
> behead or shoot
> people they think of as enemies - but that doesn't
> mean we have to do
> the same thing.
>
> Also, when and if the war in Iraq should end and we
> let these men go,
> who's not to say they won't go straight back to
> terrorism again
> because of the way they have been treated?
>
> Kat
>
> On 29 Oct 2006, at 23:29, ken barber wrote:
>
> you may be right, they may not havbe anything now.
> but
> do you let them go again. they are going right back
> to
> the fight. by the way some down there should be
> turned
> over to you brits, but you will not take them. i'll
> email the pres with your kind offer to take them on.
>
> now that you mention it 3 days with some of my
> family
> might do the trick too. maybe at a family reunion.
> they'd plead to be taken away after one day with all
> the barbers in one place.
>
> it is always good to get your imput.
>
>
> --- Deri James <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> > On Sunday 29 October 2006 01:07, ken barber wrote:
> >>
> >> not a one gave a credible plan. now multiply the
> >> number of terrorist involved by thousands, and
> >> multiply the number of people who could be killed
> > if
> >> intelligence fails to stop plots, and you are
> > looking
> >> at how hard it is for our government people
> trying
> > to
> >> protect the country.
> >>
> >
> > Hi Ken,
> >
> > One reason the IRA decided to pursue a peaceful
> path
> > is because their upper
> > echelons were infiltrated by MI6 informants - it
> > took 20 odd years but was
> > successful in the end. So you are absolutely
> right,
> > intelligence is the key
> > to winning any battle.
> >
> > But where you are dead wrong, is in imagining that
> > ANY Guantanimo inmates have
> > any current intelligence worth learning.
> >
> > In your little "test" for us ("How to rescue a
> loved
> > one") I'd suggest the
> > best strategy would be to ask the authorities to
> > release the captured
> > terrorist to live in my house for 3 days (with
> > appropriate measures to ensure
> > my safety!!). Realisation of the effects of
> > particular aberrant behaviour
> > (which terrorism is a form) has been proved to be
> > effective in rehabilitating
> > offenders.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Deri
> >
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