for manyin our congress someone who played and expert is "an expert".
drives me crazy.

-----Original Message-----
From: Cleveland, Kyle E.
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: 2/18/2003 9:10 AM
Subject: Re: mag raine's report from the bay area

Bobby,

I haven't yet made up my own mind about the wisdom of waging war in
Iraq.
One thing DOES stick in my craw, though, and that is the way the media
elites (TV/Film stars, etc.) create their own bully pulpits.

For example, why should I care one whit about Sean Penn's views on the
middle east situation?  What makes him more knowledgeable re: foreign
policy
than me?  Oh, oh, I get it!:  More that likely, he's played a CHARACTER
who
knew something about policy, therefore....

It's sort of like the old actor (name escapes me at the moment) who said
in
the antacid commercial, "I'm not a doctor, but I play one on TV."  For
many
folks that's good enough.

Going back to my bomb shelter now.

-Kyle

Oh, one more thing:

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The following is the wording of the printed statement that Neville
Chamberlain waved as he stepped off the plane on 30 September, 1938
after
the Munich Conference had ended the day before:
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"We, the German Fuehrer and Chancellor, and the British Prime Minister,
have
had a further meeting today and are agreed in recognizing that the
question
of Anglo-German relations is of the first importance for our two
countries
and for Europe.
We regard the agreement signed last night and the Anglo-German Naval
Agreement as symbolic of the desire of our two peoples never to go to
war
with one another again.
We are resolved that the method of consultation shall be the method
adopted
to deal with any other questions that may concern our two countries, and
we
are determined to continue our efforts to remove possible sources of
difference, and thus to contribute to assure the peace of Europe."
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Chamberlain read the above statement in front of 10 Downing St. and
said:
"My good friends, for the second time in our history, a British Prime
Minister has returned from Germany bringing peace with honour. I believe
it
is peace for our time...
Go home and get a nice quiet sleep."

The folks who were involved in the peace demonstrations should give the
above historical apostrophe' a good, long think.


-----Original Message-----
From: BG Greer, PhD [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 12:19 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: mag raine's report from the bay area


       I have very mixed emotions about Bush and this war. It seems to
me
that we need to concentrate on getting bin Laden. But the protests here
and
around the world were "music" to the Arab press.Those of us in the heart
land
are sick of the West Coast weinies who might be big on the tiny screen,
thinking they know foreign policy.If Joan and Bonnie want to really
protest,
let them camp for a month on the outskirts of Baghdad. That would be a
REAL
protest. Let them sitt through a few B-52 strikes and then I would
respect
them.

Bobby