A while back, I remember a scientist stating that such
problems were likely with embryonic stem cells, but
not with adult (cord blood) stem cells.
Two years ago, Miss Hwang Mi-soon was made to walk for
the first time after 19 years with adut stem cell
therapy:
http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/tech/200412/kt2004120317543511780.htm
The story was buried:
http://www.lewrockwell.com/sardi/sardi58.html
We have to ask, why the huge push (and funding) for
embryonic stem cell research from the same folks who
want an abortuary in every neighborhood? Why the
elaborate ruse to divert us away from cord blood stem
cells?
--- "Kendall D. Corbett" <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:
> Ken and Kat,
>
> I also wonder what would have happened had the study
> used rat stem
> cells rather than human stem cell implanted in rats.
> A woman I worked
> with had a kidney transplant several years back, and
> later developed a
> tumor in that kidney and ureter. I'm not saying for
> sure it was some
> form of auto immune response, but I'd think the
> likelihood of an
> autoimmune elated cancer developing would be higher
> when cros-species
> transplantation is performed. I'm not advocating
> doing experimental
> research on humans, but a check to see if tumors
> develop in rats with
> Parkinson's who are given rat stem cells would seem
> logical.
>
> Kendall
>
> On 10/27/06, Kathleen Salkin <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> > The study was truly inconclusive as they killed
> the test animals
> > before any tumors formed. So we don't know if
> the tumors would have
> > been benign or malignant, or even if they would
> have formed. Also,
> > would this have been the result of short-term
> treatment or long-
> > term? Too many questions to be really conclusive.
> >
> > Kat
> >
> >
> > On 27 Oct 2006, at 00:37, Kendall D. Corbett
> wrote:
> >
> > Ken,
> >
> > Is this the link you were talking about? If so,
> it does indicate an
> > area where caution should be observed, but since
> there was improvement
> > of the Parkinson's symptoms, I'd say it's too
> early to abandon the
> > research entirely, especially since even in this
> study, the results
> > seem to be inconclusive.
> >
> > Kendall
> >
> > http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?
> >
>
type=healthNews&storyID=2006-10-23T215819Z_01_TON379089_RTRUKOC_0_US-
> > STEM-CELLS.xml&WTmodLoc=NewsArt-C2-NextArticle-1
> >
> > Stem cells might cause brain tumors, study finds
> >
> > WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Injecting human embryonic
> stem cells into the
> > brains of Parkinson's disease patients may cause
> tumors to form, U.S.
> > researchers reported on Sunday.
> >
> > Steven Goldman and colleagues at the University of
> Rochester Medical
> > Center in New York said human stem cells injected
> into rat brains
> > turned into cells that looked like early tumors.
> >
> > Writing in the journal Nature Medicine, the
> researchers said the
> > transplants clearly helped the rats, but some of
> the cells started
> > growing in a way that could eventually lead to a
> tumor.
> >
> > Various types of cell transplants are being tried
> to treat Parkinson's
> > disease, caused when dopamine-releasing cells die
> in the brain.
> >
> > This key neurotransmitter, or message-carrying
> chemical, is involved
> > in movement and Parkinson's patients suffer muscle
> dysfunction that
> > can often lead to paralysis. Drugs can slow the
> process for a while
> > but there is no cure.
> >
> > The idea behind brain cell transplants is to
> replace the dead cells.
> > Stem cells are considered particularly promising
> as they can be
> > directed to form the precise desired tissue and do
> not trigger an
> > immune response.
> >
> > Goldman's team used human embryonic stem cells.
> Taken from days-old
> > embryos, these cells can form any kind of cell in
> the body. This batch
> > had been cultured in substances aimed at making
> them become brain
> > cells.
> >
> > Previous groups have tried to coax stem cells into
> becoming
> > dopamine-releasing cells.
> >
> > Goldman's team apparently succeeded and
> transplanted them into the
> > rats with an equivalent of Parkinson's damage. The
> animals did get
> > better.
> >
> > But the grafted cells started to show areas that
> no longer consisted
> > of dopamine-releasing neurons, but of dividing
> cells that had the
> > potential to give rise to tumors.
> >
> > The researchers killed the animals before they
> could know for sure,
> > and said any experiments in humans would have to
> be done very
> > cautiously.
> >
> > Scientists have long feared that human embryonic
> stem cells could turn
> > into tumors, because of their pliability.
> >
> > Opponents of embryonic stem cell research cite
> such threats. Many
> > opponents, including President George W. Bush and
> some members of
> > Congress, believe it is immoral to destroy human
> embryos to obtain
> > their stem cells.
> >
> >
> > (c) Reuters 2006. All Rights Reserved.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 10/26/06, ken barber <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> > > in case you haven't heard one of the latest
> studies of
> > > injecting stemcells into the brain show the
> propensity
> > > of causing cancer and tumors. i wish i still had
> the
> > > link.
> > > we'll have to agree to disagree on mr. fox.
> > >
> > > --- "Kendall D. Corbett"
> <[log in to unmask]>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Ken, since you've got your asbestos suit on,
> I
> > > > don't see it as Fox
> > > > "playing the pity card," as you put it. He's
> > > > letting the public see
> > > > the actual effects of the disease that he has.
> Stem
> > > > cell research has
> > > > the potential to more effectively treat, if
> not cure
> > > > this condition.
> > > > Since your Mom (and my uncle ) died from
> > > > Parkinson's, and a good
> > > > friend is very seriously disabled by it, my
> thought
> > > > is that research
> > > > should be continued, especially since halting
> stem
> > > > cell research is
> > > > not going to halt abortion. If a fetus is to
> be
> > > > aborted anyway, which
> > > > should always be the last option, what's so
> wrong
> > > > with using some of
> > > > the tissue that would otherwise be destroyed
> to
> > > > improve the lives of
> > > > others?
> > > > Kendall
> > > >
> > > > On 10/25/06, ken barber <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> > > > > well, kat he has admitted to not taking his
> meds
> > > > when > he makes public appearances that is to
> > > > emphasise the > disease. he wrote it in his
> book.
> > > > >
> > > > > as much as this group does not like the
> "pitiful"
> > > > card played, i can not be >symathetic to the
> man
> > > > playing the "pitiful card" in a polictical ad.
> > > > >
> > > > > rush limbaugh may be brash, caustic, and
> blunt,
> > > > but he
> > > > > is no idiot.
> > > > >
> > > > > i saw the ad and in my opinion, mr fox was
> off his
> > > > > meds as he admits to doing at times. imho
> playing
> > > > the
> > > > > "pitiful card." i resent it as my mom died
> with
> > > > > parkingson's disease.
> > > > >
> > > > > go ahead, i have my asbestos suit on.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- Kathleen Salkin <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Are you serious or do you have your tongue
> in
> > > > your
> > > > > > cheek? I happen
> > > > > > to sympathise with Michael J. Fox and
> think Rush
> > > > > > Limbaugh is a
> > > > > > blithering idiot.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Kat
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 25 Oct 2006, at 14:45, Mike Collis
> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ken, what was Rush Limbaugh thinking when
> he
> > > > > > criticized Michael J.
> > > > > > Fox? "He
> > > > > > is exaggerating the effects of the
> disease.
> > > > He's
> > > > > > moving all around and
> > > > > > shaking and it's purely an act. . . . This
> is
> > > > really
> > > > > > shameless of
> > > > > > Michael J.
> > > > > > Fox. Either he didn't take his medication
> or
> > > > he's
> > > > > > acting."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Shades of T4! What's next? Maybe you are
> > > > acting
> > > > > > like you have c.p?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Cerebral Palsy List
> > > > > > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
> > > > > > Behalf Of
> > > > > > ken barber
> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 10:13 PM
> > > > > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > > > > Subject: Re: Interesting WashPost Article.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > it is no doubt a tough year for the GOP.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- Kendall David Corbett
> <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > A similar story is unfolding in
> Wyoming....
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
>
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/23/
> > > AR200610
> > > > > > > 2301174.html
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Kendall
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > An unreasonable man (but my wife says
> that's
> > > > > > > redundant!)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The reasonable man adapts himself to the
> > > > world;
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > unreasonable one
> > > > > > > persists in trying to adapt the world to
> > > > himself.
> > > > > > > Therefore, all
> > > > > > > progress depends on the unreasonable
> man.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -George Bernard Shaw 1856-1950
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