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the founders were afraid of democracy and opp ed for a republic. democracy is in it purest form mob rule. 


--- On Thu, 10/9/08, Tamar Raine <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> From: Tamar Raine <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: How McCain plans to pay for his health care tax credits
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Date: Thursday, October 9, 2008, 3:47 PM
> kyle we agree on the electoral college. seems as
> undemocratic as having a king/queen. and as to sloppy
> reporting i agree; there are no unbiased news agencies.
> it's all about advertising dollars!
> 
> Tamar
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> ----- Original Message ----
> From: KE Cleveland <[log in to unmask]>
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Sent: Thursday, October 9, 2008 12:07:58 PM
> Subject: Re: How McCain plans to pay for his health care
> tax credits
> 
> I wouldn't classify ANY news organization as
> trustworthy, Kendall.  News is
> constantly written and broadcast with "spin",
> from CNN's Christiane
> Amanpour's giggling over McCain's tongue-tied wreck
> over Ahmadinejad's name
> (how can he be a foreign policy expert?) to FOX News
> "Fair and Balanced"
> bombastic, self-important Bill O'Reilly ("no-spin
> zone" my a**!).  One thing
> I have noticed is that CNN, CNBC, MSNBC and others of their
> ilk can hardly
> contain their joy that the "polls" are showing
> McCain slipping in the race.
> I'm not surprised.
> 
> Not only are mass media news outlets biased, their
> newsgathering techniques
> are lazy.  Reported "facts" are rarely
> checked.  Sources rarely vetted.  It
> takes time to really get to the truth.  And time is money
> when your dealing
> with ephemeral headlines.
> 
> Newspapers, long at the mercy of the owner/publisher's
> personal politics,
> are failing, in part, because folks are tired of opinions
> injected into
> "news".
> 
> We need Paul Harvey for the "rest of the story",
> no?
> 
> With regard to the election, I believe the so-called
> "swing-vote" is an
> empty pinata.  Ain't nothin' inside.  These
> "swing voters" know which lever
> they're going to pull come November 4th.  They just
> feel (rightly) that it's
> none of our business who they're voting for.
> 
> Oh, Ken, I agree with you re: what the bank said you could
> afford and what
> you knew you could afford.  Predatory lending? 
> Possibly.  I still think
> it's more an issue of actuarial risk, and yes, as a
> former employee of a
> very large bank, I know that the Community Reinvestment Act
> (CRA) prodded
> lenders to carelessly loan money to folks that didn't
> have a clue as how to
> manage finances.
> 
> I'm becoming more of a Libertarian every day.  Daggone
> two-party system!
> And why do we still have the Electoral College for
> gawdsakes?  I just can't
> equate democracy with a mechanism that would not allow a
> straight
> up-and-down popular vote.
> 
> Kyle
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 12:09 PM, Kendall D. Corbett <
> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
> 
> > Ownership doesn't matter?  I've heard people
> argue the other side with
> > the NYT and most broadcast news organizations. 
> Don't you think
> > Murdoch's ownership of Fox (or Ted Turner's
> ownership of CNN
> > influences their reporting?
> >
> > I acknowledge that budgetary priorities will shift
> with the economic
> > mess.  The thing that scared me about the article was
> that McCain
> > would have paid for health care for those who could
> most afford it by
> > cutting health care for thhose who can least afford
> it.
> >
> > What would you classify as a trustworthy news
> organization?
> >
> >
> >
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