in the price of every dollor you spend is another 23 %
that is passed on by companies passing on the tax that
they supposedly pay. but, really the only taxpayers
are the indeviduals. companies that "pay taxes" add
them into the price and so they are acually judt
collecting taxes from you as part of the price and
passing it on to the government.
this is only federal tax. HR25 does not address state
tax at all. but your sales tax is taxing the 23 % that
is passed on taxes, so in those you are paying taxes
on taxes.
we are paying more than enough to cover all the
roads, defense, etc. the government waste quite a but
of money.
--- Kathy Salkin <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> No, my net pay does not show my true pay, nor does
> it show the true
> amount of taxes. I also pay sales taxes locally as
> well as property
> taxes. My employer pays into my social security as
> well as
> Medicare. Do I resent the taxation? No, because
> without it, other
> people would be a lot worse off without local
> government-sponsored
> health care or other programs.
>
> I also donate to charities but I think if there were
> no social
> welfare or other government-funded programs,
> charities and other non-
> profits would not be able to make up the shortfall.
> I don't believe
> in handouts but I don't believe in abandoning those
> in need of our
> help, either. Now whether someone decides to accept
> that help is
> their own decision but it should be there if they
> need it.
>
> Kat
>
>
> On Mar 25, 2007, at 5:09 PM, ken barber wrote:
>
> > the fair tax fully finances the government
> programs.
> > just not with a income tax. it does relieve the
> poor
> > from paying any taxes. even the social security
> tax is
> > taken away.
> > and again you have 2 defrees because you chose
> to
> > get two degrees. again that choice might have been
> > enabled by having some finances that others do
> not,
> > but, some is just unforunate and some is choices
> made.
> > but even if people are poor becouse of their
> choices,
> > if they want to do better, then help them do so.
> > again how much do you feel comfortable with th
> > government taking. of course you know that what
> you
> > see on the check stub is not all the tax you pay.
> >
> > --- Kathy Salkin <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >
> >> Ken,
> >>
> >> I have a good job and two degrees and I am much
> >> better off than those
> >> less fortunate in society. I also believe we
> have
> >> an obligation to
> >> support our fellow man for the common good;
> >> unfortunately not
> >> everyone who is well off will be inclined to
> support
> >> those less
> >> fortunate than they, and I think a fair tax goes
> a
> >> long way towards
> >> helping others and our government to achieve
> their
> >> goals.
> >>
> >> Consider this, then, since you seem to be so much
> >> against taxes -
> >> without taxes, we would not be able to support
> our
> >> troops or our
> >> veterans although if you ask me, we have too
> little
> >> oversight in that
> >> area at the moment. Conditions at the military
> and
> >> veterans'
> >> hospitals are a disgrace to our military.
> >>
> >> Kat
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mar 25, 2007, at 11:41 AM, ken barber wrote:
> >>
> >>> although i do think no tax at all is better.
> >>>
> >>> why should distributing wealth be one of the
> >> purposes
> >>> of taxes?
> >>> i agree that it is, but why should it be?
> >>>
> >>> --- Deri James <[log in to unmask]>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On Sunday 25 March 2007 04:13, ken barber
> wrote:
> >>>>> did you study the plan?
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Of course!! Can't think of an "unfairer" way of
> >>>> distributing wealth (which is
> >>>> one of the purposes of taxation).
> >>>>
> >>>> Did you read the interview with Edward Wolff at
> >>>>
> >>> <http://multinationalmonitor.org/mm2003/03may/
> >>> may03interviewswolff.html>?
> >>>>
> >>>> Cheers
> >>>>
> >>>> Deri
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