i though trish and i were have a private conversation
on animals, i do not mind you knowing how i view
animals, but, please know that i got confused in it
comming to the list.
--- ken barber <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> well, my logic does not agree with theirs.
>
> --- Trisha Cummings <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> > Hi Ken,
> >
> > The catholic logic is only thing with souls go
> to
> > heaven, only people have souls - so only people go
> > to heaven.
> >
> > Trisha
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: St. John's University Cerebral Palsy List
> > [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of
> > ken barber
> > Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 9:53 AM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: Deny Last Rites TO Terri Schiavo??
> >
> >
> > well, trish. i believe heaven and eart were
> created
> > perfect. there were animals from the first 6 days,
> > no
> > matter how you interpret "days." if animals were
> > part
> > of the perfect, why would they not be part of the
> > other perfect.
> > and the bible itself talks about horses as part of
> > the
> > new creation.
> > i do not know either way about if there ever was
> > unicorns, but, i do know that there are people who
> > love animals very much and animals are a part of
> > their
> > happiness. heaven is supposed to be complete
> > happiness, so i do not have a problem believing
> that
> > BIG GOD, can work it out so we have our animals to
> > complete the experience.
> > seems logical to me. i do not quite understand
> > why
> > this is a big issue with the priest. now, i do not
> > know or claim to know if my dogs are going to be
> the
> > exact same dog, recreated, or a like beast created
> > so
> > close that i'll not know the difference. i do not
> > know, really do not care. i do not put them on =
> par
> > with humans, but, do not see why they can not be
> > recreated if it will make us happy.
> >
> > --- Trisha Cummings <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > > Hi Ken,
> > >
> > > I am glad, I can't imagine God would make a
> > place
> > > devoid of all the wonder we have here on earth
> for
> > > people to live in - in the afterlife - if
> anything
> > > that's where the Unicorns are!!
> > >
> > > Trisha
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: St. John's University Cerebral Palsy List
> > > [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf
> Of
> > > ken barber
> > > Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 1:47 PM
> > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > Subject: Re: Deny Last Rites TO Terri Schiavo??
> > >
> > >
> > > i have no trouble believing that there will be
> > > animals
> > > in heaven.
> > >
> > > --- Trisha Cummings <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > > > HI Ken'
> > > >
> > > > Many moons ago - when i was 20, I was
> engaged
> > to
> > > a
> > > > Catholic, and was taking Catholism becasue
> > because
> > > > it was important to him and its critical that
> > kids
> > > > are raised in the church - etc. That's what I
> am
> > > > remembering about communion - I couldn't have
> > > > communion until I was a catholic and then only
> > > after
> > > > confession, and Charlie didn't do communion
> > > because
> > > > he evidently did something he didn't want to
> > > confess
> > > > to. Anyway, in the end the priest and I had a
> > > > falling out about animals going to Heaven -
> and
> > > > Charlie hit me one time to many - so I never
> did
> > > > becaome Catholic even tho I use to enjoy going
> > to
> > > > mass - go figure.
> > > >
> > > > TRISHA
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: St. John's University Cerebral Palsy
> List
> > on
> > > > behalf of ken barber
> > > > Sent: Sat 3/26/2005 11:25 PM
> > > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > > Subject: Re: Deny Last Rites TO Terri
> > > Schiavo??
> > > >
> > > > you may be right trish. i am not catholic, i
> was
> > > > raised by a freewill baptist home missionary.
> > > > sometimes known as "tent maker" becouse he
> > worked
> > > a
> > > > full time job and started churches. when they
> > > could
> > > > afford to pay a pastor, he moved on and
> started
> > > > another church leaving the other one with a
> > > regular
> > > > pastor.
> > > >
> > > > --- Trisha Cummings <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > > > > Ken,
> > > > >
> > > > > As far as communion goes - in order to
> > recieve
> > > > > communion in the catholic religion you must
> > have
> > > > > gone to confession. She not able to confess,
> > > > > therefore she can't have communion. As to
> the
> > > last
> > > > > rites, they can adminsiter them to the dying
> > on
> > > > > accidents scenes - so no doubt they can do
> > them
> > > > for
> > > > > her. But they do them for the dying.And I am
> > > sure
> > > > at
> > > > > some point they will.
> > > > >
> > > > > Trisha
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: St. John's University Cerebral Palsy
> > List
> > > on
> > > > > behalf of ken barber
> > > > > Sent: Fri 3/25/2005 5:08 PM
> > > > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > > > Subject: Deny Last Rites TO Terri
> > Schiavo??
> > > > >
> > > > > Judy just heard on radio that Terri Schiavo
> > > would
> > > > > not
> > > > > even be allowed last rites becouse the
> little
> > > bit
> > > > of
> > > > > wine and waffer would be technically food
> and
> > > > drink.
> > > > > for you who are of any religious beliefs,
> you
> > > have
> > > > > got
> > > > > to find this to be appaling. i think this is
> > > just
> > > > > horrible no matter what the position you
> have
> > on
> > > > the
> > > > > feeding tube issue. .
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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