Gary-

Why do "African-American" males die earlier?  It's because they don't seek treatment and they lead unhealthy lifestyles.  Check the National Institute of Health studies.

Why are young black men safer in the services?  Because the military is a very structured culture (I know this because my father was a Marine all through my childhood).  Also, possession of an unauthorized firearm is an infraction of the UCMJ (military law), where there is no "plea bargaining".  In the military--while in the military--men and women are taught duty, honor and respect.  It is demanded of them.  What they do after they muster out may be a different matter.

Why are undercover black cops shot more often (where are you getting your stats, BTW)?  Because they tend to be more "believable" than a white cop trying to buy crack.

Wait a second...you're from Kalifornistan, aren't you?  Nevermind....

Let me know when logic and reason become legal in your country.  I hear the coast highway is quite spectacular.


----- Original Message -----
From: Gary Norris Gray <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Friday, November 21, 2003 11:52 pm
Subject: this is a Black-White thing because its american history ...

> most of you guys are still missing the point
> now we have a new form of slavery
> if you dont sing,dance, or play sports (sterotype) it is still
> hard to be an african american male in this country .. do you know
> that it was safer for a young african american male 16-25  to be
> in the armed forces then to be in the streets in america .THAT IS SICK
> do you know that more african american undercover policeman get
> shoot more times than any other group of police officers in the
> field .. THAT IS SICK
> do you know that the average african american male dies ten to
> fifteen years earlyier than any other group in this country
> if your a black disabled male its 20 years
>
> we just have to come to the truth and be real about this
> until  america gives african america true economic power and freedom
> until america gives african americans true political freedom
> we will be going around in circles over and over again
> yes for those left wingers we have become a better nation but the
> kobe bryant, o.j. simpson, micheal jackson, the murder of micheal
> jordens father, the murder of bil cosby's son
> have we truly become one nation under GOD or just one nation with
> the most money wins ? i think its the later and micheal might get
> off again .. do i think its fair NO
> do i think its right NO
> what happen three years ago in the 2000 fla national election was
> a complete disgrace when thousands of african american voters were
> denied the right to vote
> when thousands of disabled voters were denied their right to vote.
> nobody lifted a finger to help these people . very few ccomplained
> about it so you tell me what happen ? now is this a level playing
> field ? NO
> let me ask you all this, do you believe if the rodney king trail
> did not happen two years earlier would with the not guilty verdict
> for those four police officers would o.j. be free today  NO
> the rodney king trial tainted the o.j. trail the answer is very
> easy NO
> america was so scared that if they found o.j. guilty this country
> would have gone up in smoke. do you notice how the whole country
> stop when the jury came back with the verdict. did you notice that
> most african americans cheered while white americans were in anger
> and cryed why this trail should the ccomplete division of this
> country along racial lines  i could not talk about this case with
> some of my white friends because in their minds this man was a
> killer so dont tell me that the kobe bryant case, the micheal
> jackson case the same thing will happen all over again, most
> whites will see it one way most african american will see it the
> other , the iowa state football players rape case against two
> white females
> if this is not about race, if you truly believe this then you are
> truly blind and do not know the history of american racism . this
> country thrives on stuff like this we should ignore it completely
> and go about our lives .. when this person made a joke on this web
> site it was a joke about african americans in my mind and i did
> not like it .. it was a personal attack on my culture. he may not
> have thought so but it was
> that is way i responded the way i did .. its not funny nor is it right
> i dont like clinton jokes
> i dont like o.j. jokes
> i dont like rush limbaugh jokes
> i dont like kobe bryant jokes
> one should not make fun at somebody elses problems
> being disabled i thought many of you would understand that and be
> more respectful.
> think about this
> how many parties on american college campus were white frat. boys
> have there way with girls then go to trail .. not many, and how
> many get front page news, not many
> how many child abusers in the burbs,  get front page news, not many
> this is why it upset me so much because it just showed to me the
> lack of cultural sensitivity
> i do not want to talk about this any longer because its not going
> to make it better . i just wanted people to think about making
> statements on a public form like that
> think about your fellow  man /woman when you write
> ken barber <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> like i said, the jury saw all the evidence, no one
> called me with any evidence nor to ask if i wanted to
> be on that jury.
> > >
> > > I believe in the Innocent until found Guilty thing
> > as well. OJ got off?
> > > Did that make him innocent?
> >
> > Afraid it did. I may not like the guy, I may wish
> > the justice system was
> > nearer perfection, but it would not be fair to treat
> > him as guilty after his
> > acquittal.
>
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