I still recall some 30 years later, a co-worker whose live-in
boyfriend of 10 years died in a car crash. His parents loathed her
and because he didn't leave a will, she lost everything they had
accumulated together. Of course they could have gotten married
legally but they didn't believe in it - in any case, I believe such
situations should be covered by civil unions, not just for gays.
The day the UK allowed civil unions, there were ceremonies all over
Britain and I was inspired by the happy stories the papers were
reporting. I honestly think we will be doing more good than harm by
allowing civil unions.
Kat
On 23 Apr 2006, at 11:01, Trisha Cummings wrote:
Hi Kat,
The really silly thing here is the ignorance of what's actaully
happening in real world. Gay couple live together, the acquire
children, have houses, get sick get old and die. Not making the
relationship doesn't change reality. Nor make anyone become ungay, it
simply robs people of dignity and rights. I support gay marraige have
you seen the length of some of the relationships of the people who
want to get married? They have logged some serious years. And it
would seem about making a commitment whether or not its a publicly
approved thing.
The same thing happens with ployamory, which by the way is alive and
well and operating in your community. You would be amazed how many
people operate under the radar living quietly as they chose. You
cannot legislate how people will live, they will do it their way,
regardless. In the end its not about marriage, or multiple partners
its about the threat of someone being different and you ability to
force them to be like you.
Frankly, with the divorce rate as it is(50% of 1st marriages, 50% of
2nd marriages and 16% of 3rd marraiges) - why aren't people more
concerned with the folks who walk out on the commitments - single mom
and kids - there is group that suffers( and are on welfare!!). The
whole marriage thing needs to be examined - obviously something that
worked when people died like flys is not working now. We need to fine
something that does work.
Trisha
-----Original Message-----
From: Cerebral Palsy List [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf
Of Kathleen Salkin
Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 1:23 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Polygamists may go the way of Al Capone
OK I think that no matter what happens in the matter of civil unions =20
and legal marriages, a line will be drawn at the age of consent. I =20
honestly think it's no one else's business what a consenting adult =20
does in his or her private life but a child is another matter.
And yes, I support gay marriages and I think it's high time that we =20
allow a=86 least civil unions. I think we are creating a lot of hurt
=20=
by not supporting gay unions. Ken, it's not just homosexuals who =20
want gay civil unions but also straight people who think they should =20
be allowed legal rights to properties and assets the same as =20
straight married couples.
Kat
On 22 Apr 2006, at 19:29, ken barber wrote:
becouse that is not what the homosexuals want. you
know it, i know it, and everyone else knows it.
hey, why can't a man have civil unions with 6 women or
vice versa?
there are those out there who want to "marry" little
children.
animals have rights says some. there are a few that
woant to "marry" animals.
hey if a guys loves his horse who am i to forbid the
"marriage" as long as he does not hurt me. after all
it is love that matters.
hey, no holds barred. that is what is wanted.
--- Mike Collis <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Ken, why can't there be civil unions as well as
> marriages?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cerebral Palsy List
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
> ken barber
> Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 3:38 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Polygamists may go the way of Al Capone
>
> well, you get to forbidding the states to define
> marriage as one man and one woman and pandora's box
> is
> opened IMHO. of course i am not an enlightened
> liberal, i am just an old bigoted conservative, so
> what would i know.
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