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well yes, there is certainly that, mike. 

--- Mike Collis <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> The last Japanese soldier came out from hiding 20
> years ago I think. The war
> for him ended that day.  There were holdouts, of
> course.  See:
>
http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/g/germany-iran.htm
>  but it is disputed
> as to how many similarities there are between Iraq
> and Germany.  I guess the
> biggest difference is the Islamic psychology of
> jihad.    
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cerebral Palsy List
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
> ken barber
> Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 11:41 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: what happens if we leave iraq too
> quickly
> 
> do you know that the troops were still being shot at
> as long as 7 years after the war was supposedly
> over?
> in both places? i'd say they were quelling some
> agression still. after that though i'd buy your
> version, but not until after that. maybe you don't
> know as much history as you think. on the other hand
> maybe i don't know as much as i think. maybe it is
> somewhere in-between. good to discuss though.  
> 
> --- Mike Collis <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> 
> > True, but Germany did have a democracy before
> > Hitler, and Japan was so
> > shellshocked by defeat from an "inferior" foe,
> they
> > took to democracy quite
> > readily.  You're not getting away with history
> that
> > easily, Ken. I know
> > history, too.   I think the reason why we kept
> > troops there was to make sure
> > the communists wouldn't come over. It wasn't to
> > quell aggresson.  And that
> > to me is the big difference.   
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Cerebral Palsy List
> > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
> > ken barber
> > Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 11:27 PM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: what happens if we leave iraq too
> > quickly
> > 
> > well, lets examine some of the places we have
> > exported
> > democracy. Japan is a good place to start. we had
> to
> > keep troops there for years, but, japan appears to
> > have turned out pretty good. Germany under hitler
> > was
> > hardly a democracy. we left troops there many
> years,
> > but, lookes like it turned out pretty good. the
> > common
> > denominator seems to be the willingness to take
> the
> > time necessaary to plant a democracy. if you can't
> > microwave one in a few minutes most will say, "it
> > can't be done." 
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