No, Michael, I'm not related to Grover.  There are two lines of Clevelands in the U.S.  One settled in New York state (the "northern" line--Grover's) and the other came through the Tidewater region of Virginia (the "southern" line--mine).  My Cleveland ancestors emigrating from North Yorkshire, England.  I have visited the grave of the first (in my line) emigre, Alexander Cleveland, in Gloucester, Virginia.  He arrived in 1684.  My son is his namesake.
 
It's ironic that you should ask, Michael, because I took a bunch of soldiers this weekend with a bunch touring Civil War battlefields, and since the rental car was mine (grin) I decided to stop by my "famous" ancestor's grave: Col. Benjamin Cleveland.  He's my seven "greats" grandfather.  I think he had a walk-on part in Mel Gibson's movie, "Patriot" (LOL!).  Anyway, he's my claim to fame:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Cleveland
 
So we put about 500 miles on this minivan running around Tennessee, Virginia, North and South Carolina this weekend.  Hanna's gone, but they're now saying that Ike is going to be a doozy.  We're all tired, bored and we just wanna go home <sniff>.  Waiting around for something to happen is a real drag.
 
One of the Civil Affairs soldiers brought an MP3 player along and we were able to plug it into the car stereo.  She had downloaded a song recorded by a girl named Eva Cassidy.  She'd covered Sting's "Fields of Gold."  Anyone ever heard of her?  I swear, it was like listening to an angel!  She apparently died of melanoma about six or seven years ago.  She was only 33.  Anyway, if you get a chance, go out on youtube and listen to this song.  If you don't cry your heart's made of stone.  Captain Summers also had some recordings of the Peasall Sisters.  They were the voices behind the three little girls in "O Brother, Where Art Thou?".  Really sweet and tender harmonies--good stuff!  Makes us even more homesick, and we've only been here a few days!  LOL!
 
Deri, Kat, Ken:  If you could hook up keclevel@gmail for me, that would be great.  I want to run parallel on both email addresses at least until I get back home.  Don't want to miss any of the fun <grin>.
 
We're going to watch "Mad Max, Beyond Thunderdome" tonight in honor of Hurricane Ike.  I know it's a stretch, but Tina Turner's in the movie and that was the only one we could think of that had even a remote relationship to "Ike".
 
Y'all be safe.
 
Kyle
 
 
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Ken, how many presidents were supposedly "skirtchasers" in office?  there were apparently quite a few. the most notorious being Clinton, Kennedy, Jefferson, and Grover Cleveland.  Kyle, you two aren't related, are you?

---- Original message ----
>Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 21:00:53 -0700
>From: ken barber <[log in to unmask]> 
>Subject: Re: Palin's little lies 
>To: [log in to unmask]
>
> so are you okay with a man humping a campaign worker while his wife is fighting for her life against cancer? and i'd like a little bit of a clear explaination of just whose money he was using to pay her 3000 dollars a month to have her quiet. i'd certainly think that campaign
> contributors just might be equally as curious.
>
>by the way you ever hear of a man named Revsco? i hope i spelled it correctly.
>
> --- On Sat, 9/6/08, Tamar Raine
> <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> > From: Tamar Raine <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Re: Palin's little lies
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Date: Saturday, September 6, 2008, 11:51 PM
> > i don't think an affair breaks my belief in a
> public
> > offical.  For instance, if Clinton had just said,
> Yes, I
> > had an affair with Lewinsky, that would not have
> broken my
> > trust in him. Big deal, whoopie do.  but the fact
> that he
> > lied about it was stupid.  I was much more concerned
> about
> > Bosnia, about NAFTA, and why was he going so far to
> the
> > right........
> >
> > what would do it for me would be if they were abusing
> > power, if they were unethical, if there were secret
> > dealings. For instance if Obama was part of the
> chicago
> > political machine, I am sure I could dig up the dirt
> on the
> > web.
>> >  
>> > Mag
>> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> > http://www.zazzle.com/TamarMag*
>> > Tamar Mag Raine
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>> >
>> > ----- Original Message ----
>> > From: ken barber <[log in to unmask]>
>> > To: [log in to unmask]
>> > Sent: Saturday, September 6, 2008 6:11:20 PM
>> > Subject: Re: Palin's little lies
>> >
>> > yeah, Edwards is a great example. this had been going
>> on
>> > for months and months. the inquirer said the had it
>> for
>> > months and did not publish it until he was out of the
>> > running.
>> > who broke the story? ABC? NBC? CBS? CNN? NO NO NO AND
>> NO.
>> > THE NEW YORK TIMES? THE WASHINGTON POST? CHICAGO
>> TIMES? LA
>> > TIMES? ATLASNTA URINAL AND CONSTIPATION? WELL NO!!
>> > right next to the lady who had a 300 ponnd baby
>> fathered by
>> > an alien from mars in the national inquirer was where
>> it
>> > was.
>> >
>> > now the NY times ran an article about McCain on a
>> rumor and
>> > an enuendo. well i can see where you might think they
>> are
>> > impartial, but it just don't quite wash with
>> little ole
>> > me.
>> >
>> > thank you for giving me a prime example. 
>> >
>> >
>> > --- On Sat, 9/6/08, Kathy <[log in to unmask]>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > From: Kathy <[log in to unmask]>
>> > > Subject: Re: Palin's little lies
>> > > To: [log in to unmask]
>> > > Date: Saturday, September 6, 2008, 7:18 PM
>> > > I think he's saying the press is too liberal
>> to
>> > really
>> > > dig up dirt
>> > > against Obama.  I beg to differ.  If The
>> Enquirer
>> > had been
>> > > able to dig
>> > > up dirt against him they would have.  Just look
>> at
>> > John
>> > > Edwards.
>> > >
>> >
>> >
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